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Re:Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’ by baggy_trough on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @12:23PM (#25750034)
You are confusing the 1st Amendment with 'free speech'. Free speech is a value that is broadly applicable to society, far larger in scope than prohibition from the government.
Re:Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’ by dragonwriter on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @01:55PM (#25751598)
> Free speech is a value that is broadly applicable to society, far larger in scope than prohibition from the government

The idea of free speech is the ideas should succed or fail based on their ability to convince private actors tomhold and relay them.

Compelling actors to relay speech they disapprove of, unless those actors are the State or agents thereof, generally violates that principal.

Free speech is not an entitlement to third-party magnification of your speech, it is indeed the opposite: the idea that such magnification must be earned by convincing the party whose magnification is sought.

“People who disagree with me aren't relaying my speech or speech I like” isn't a violation of free speech.

Re:Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’ by jsonne on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @12:36PM (#25750240)
I have no idea why you're being downvoted because you're completely right. The petty legalism around the issue does nothing to further the conversation. The 1st amendment is about the US government censoring people. It doesn't own the concept of free speech as a whole in the same way the constitution doesn't own the idea of God given rights, or democracy, or republic, or numerous other concepts mentioned.
Re:Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’ by the_af on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @01:45PM (#25751443)
> You are confusing the 1st Amendment with 'free speech'

I'm not Randall Munroe, how am I confusing anything by simply explaining he doesn't claim to be against free speech but rather is clarifying what he thinks free speech is?

I'm ok if you disagree with him, but please don't make claims about what I think, when I didn't say what I think.

I was replying to a comment arguing that xkcd doesn't support free speech because the author is leftist. I showed the author does support what he believes is free speech. That's all.

Re:Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’ by Karunamon on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @12:39PM (#25750278)
Re:Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’ by metabagel on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @02:34PM (#25752217)
I think this concept of freedom of speech is in opposition to freedom of association.
Re:Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’ by Karunamon on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @02:42PM (#25752347)
Society already makes inroads on freedom of association. Businesses aren't allowed to turn away customers based on race and so forth.
Re:Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’ by the_af on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @02:09PM (#25751806)
This is more like what I think, thanks for posting!

I was merely correcting the misconception that Randall Munroe from xkcd doesn't advocate for free speech. I didn't say I agreed 100% with the comic itself, though I do find parts of it thought-provoking.