My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions

Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by pacamara619 on Monday January 11, 2021 @07:37PM (#25740595)

I see an IPv6 address on a computer screen. I want to connect to it from another computer. Copy pasting doesn't work between computers. Am I supposed to type it letter after letter? Am I supposed to send somehow? What if I don't have internet access on the first computer? Do I need to go find a USB stick so I can transfer a file with the IPv6 address? Am I supposed to set up a DNS server of some kind?

I'll keep my IPv4 thank you very much.

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by lmm on Monday January 11, 2021 @07:59PM (#25740827)

Do you seriously ssh to raw IPv4 addresses? Everywhere I ssh to (including my home server) has a DNS address and that's how I connect to it.

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by Mediterraneo10 on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @06:05AM (#25745221)

Whenever I have got a new Raspberry Pi or PinePhone and connect it to the home network, I always SSH to the raw IP first. (Sure, at some point I’ll configure the router’s DHCP settings to ensure the new device gets a stable IP address, and then I can just use an SSH alias.) I would imagine that this is a very common use case.

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by lmm on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @07:54PM (#25756443)

I got a new NAS last week and only ever sshed to [hostname].local. Didn't have to configure my router at all. Come to think of it I don't even know (or care) whether I was SSHing via IPv4 or IPv6.

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by fsh on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @06:46AM (#25745566)

Any decent home router will automatically add the hostname of all DHCP(v6)-configured devices to its DNS service. You shouldn't need raw addresses at all.

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by msh on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @02:40AM (#25759309)

I have not seen any routers that do it, my ubiquity amplifi router certainly does not do that.

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by lmm on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @08:00PM (#25770336)

That's very strange given that every cheapo ISP router I've had does that. How did you confirm that it doesn't?

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by bzb6 on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @04:45AM (#25744478)

I don’t know about him, but I do, quite frequently.

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by p1mrx on Monday January 11, 2021 @07:44PM (#25740660)

I use https://dns.he.net, with an hourly cron job that runs 'curl' to keep the address updated.

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by bo1024 on Monday January 11, 2021 @08:13PM (#25740955)

I think this is a legitimate downside of IPv6, but a small one in the big scheme of things. Considering in a world of IPv4, most people don't get to have an IP address at all...

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by xaduha on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @01:09AM (#25742992)

Zeroconf for local networks, free dyndns for public addresses.

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by fulafel on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @12:47AM (#25758671)

Isn't this a bit dramatic, sounds more like an excuse than a legit reason to stay off v6. It happens extremely rarely and there's only 4x the amount of bits in a IPv6 address so it's not an insurmountable task, and nothing prevents you from concurrently using rfc1918 v4 addresses on a home network.

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by dboreham on Monday January 11, 2021 @08:16PM (#25740988)

If this is a concern you can assign easy to type addresses such as 2001:1868:a106:101::120

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by jtsiskin on Monday January 11, 2021 @11:01PM (#25742101)

When is the last time you had to type an IPv4 address that you couldn’t copy paste?

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Re:My ISP Is Killing My Idle SSH Sessions by Miner49er on Monday January 11, 2021 @08:01PM (#25740840)

You could use base85

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