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Re:China CCP to Nationalize Jack Ma's Alibaba and Ant Group ... by bosswipe on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:09PM (#25735729)
> 850 million people out of poverty. This is not something a reasonable person can argue against!

I'd argue against it on the grounds that the planet doesn't have enough resources for everyone to live a middle class lifestyle.

Re:China CCP to Nationalize Jack Ma's Alibaba and Ant Group ... by hungryhobo on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:16PM (#25735870)
So chinese people should just sit down and live low class life. Got it.
Re:China CCP to Nationalize Jack Ma's Alibaba and Ant Group ... by bosswipe on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:20PM (#25735964)
You can be aggrieved, blame the west, assign whatever morality you want, it doesn't change the fact that the planet doesn't have enough resources for everyone to live a middle class lifestyle.
Re:China CCP to Nationalize Jack Ma's Alibaba and Ant Group ... by hungryhobo on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:35PM (#25736258)
So this whole anti china rhetoric had nothing to do with human rights or unfair trade but everything to do with the west not want to squander its middle life style because our planet can't actually support it. I appreciate your honesty but I wouldn't actually expect the chinese to actually sit down and accept it tho
Re:China CCP to Nationalize Jack Ma's Alibaba and Ant Group ... by justicezyx on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:29PM (#25737427)
LMAO...

Where is the basis of this not enough resources for middle class life style?

Tell me, what is middle class life style anyway? If you are talking about the American consumerism middle class life style, sure, I think most educated people nowadays do not really like that form of life style, or find it actually comfortable.

And even if that's the style everyone wants to. With tech advancement, why cannot everyone afford that, while still keep the environment health and sustainable for human?

Please enlighten me...

Re:China CCP to Nationalize Jack Ma's Alibaba and Ant Group ... by echelon on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:37PM (#25736322)
Yes it does. As we automate more, there will even be an opportunity for everyone to work less.
Re:China CCP to Nationalize Jack Ma's Alibaba and Ant Group ... by bigpumpkin on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:37PM (#25736313)
Rather let the Chinese continue to ride on bicycles than the west give up on SUVs.
Re:China CCP to Nationalize Jack Ma's Alibaba and Ant Group ... by dddswguy on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:53PM (#25736678)
Are you really arguing that due to limited resources people in less developed countries in Asia or Africa should continue to suffer so that the developed countries can keep their middle class lifestyle?
Re:China CCP to Nationalize Jack Ma's Alibaba and Ant Group ... by bosswipe on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:40PM (#25737650)
I didn't say that, I don't know what the answer is. But the fact remains that there are not enough resources for the consumption level where we are now. If another billion people are raised to China levels it will be a bigger disaster.
Re:China CCP to Nationalize Jack Ma's Alibaba and Ant Group ... by onethought on Monday January 11, 2021 @04:11PM (#25737058)
But that’s not true... it does. Maybe not of US consumption levels... but the US need to sort that out.