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Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by maroonblazer on Sunday January 10, 2021 @10:44PM (#25724172)
False equivalence. Looting commercial districts (while objectionable) is not the same as falsely claiming a federal election was stolen and looting the Capital.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by berneezy3 on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:36AM (#25725003)
The looting and rioting after the George Floyd incident (as a separate event from the peaceful protests) were not limited to commercial districts. Across multiple cities, government buildings and police stations were vandalized/looted. In an extreme case, in Portland, the federal courthouse was set on fire.

Also, the post-George-Floyd looting/rioting persisted for far more than a day. An example is the CHOP zone in Seattle, which lasted for 3 weeks before protesters were forcibly removed.

This doesn't absolve the Capitol Hill rioters either, but simply describing the BLM looting "looting commercial districts" downplays the amount of damage done. In my opinion, I think reasonable questions to ask are: over what period of time did the violence persist, what amount of value was destroyed, and how many lives were claimed during the looting.

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by res0nat0r on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:07AM (#25725673)
> over what period of time did the violence persist,

According to BLM the violence against them has persisted since the founding of the country.

Rioting against being systemically killed for generations and destroying property because nothing else you do changes the system is absolutely fundamentally different than storming Congress because your cult leader and GOP officials have lied to you, you're dumb enough to believe it, and cause you to commit insurrection.

There is no comparing the two no matter how many times people try and draw up this false equivalence.

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by lliamander on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:52AM (#25725124)
A government sponsored media outlet giving justification to the victimization of innocent civilians is much worse.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by phkahler on Sunday January 10, 2021 @11:01PM (#25724307)
OK. The dems ran around for 3 years claiming the Russians somehow handed Trump the 2016 election.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by GavinMcG on Sunday January 10, 2021 @11:08PM (#25724340)
"We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling." - Senator Marco Rubio, R-FL, U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Chair

https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2020/8/rubio-s...

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by YarickR2 on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:42AM (#25725047)
Now you trust Republicans.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by lliamander on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:54AM (#25725132)
Nowhere near enough to actually influence the election.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by djur on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:37AM (#25725880)
What information do you have that allows you to make that determination? It was a very close election.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by lliamander on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:52AM (#25725972)
The fact that the Senate report itself does not question the outcome of the 2016 election would be a big one.

The fact that Russian operation was much smaller that either candidate's political campaigns.

Also, just the general lack of evidence that it was a decisive factor.[1]

[1]https://time.com/5573537/mueller-report-russia-election-inte...

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by djur on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:14AM (#25726129)
Neither the Senate report nor the Mueller report attempted to determine whether the Russian operations affected the outcome of the election, as your article indicates:

> [D]id those Russian efforts actually swing the outcome of the 2016 contest? ... Mueller's report does not attempt to answer this politically charged issue.

Indeed, that article explains quite clearly how it's not possible to say with certainty ("nowhere near enough") whether the outcome of the election was changed or not. You can't compare the impact of the stolen DNC and Podesta emails with campaign expenditures.

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by thrwawy12345 on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:57AM (#25726417)
Amazed to see this being downvoted. We really do live in multiple realities in this country.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by whatshisface on Sunday January 10, 2021 @11:41PM (#25724616)
Perhaps the people who were looting commercial districts would have looted the Capitol if they were put in the same situation. Perhaps the people who looted the Capitol would have looted storefronts if they had been mad at what they represented. There's one way to look at it where you have a generalized trait of not caring about following the law when you're surrounded by a large group, a trait that some people have, and that can be activated whenever the right circumstances arise.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by asdff on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:02AM (#25725182)
It's one thing to make a run at a pair of jeans when police are distracted to sell on ebay later. That's common petty theft. It's another to force entry into the Capitol when both chambers were in session along with the Vice President to certify election results. That's terrorism.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by whatshisface on Monday January 11, 2021 @10:14AM (#25729948)
They're different, literally. But would they take different people? Maybe there's a similarity.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by eganist on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:30AM (#25724961)
> Perhaps the people who were looting commercial districts would have looted the Capitol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by rorykoehler on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:27AM (#25724938)
But they didn't and that is all that matters here.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by zdragnar on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:36AM (#25725437)
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by rorykoehler on Monday January 11, 2021 @05:06AM (#25726864)
Looks like the police did their jobs (for once).
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by zdragnar on Monday January 11, 2021 @09:09AM (#25729015)
The lack of police amd national guard response to the Capitol siege is a direct result of the media coverage of the BLM protests- both the mayor and security officials didn't want to look bad, or make matters worse.

It is worth pointing out that, prior to this, right wing protests have actually been very peaceful. Protesting tax rates really isnt enough to rile up the radical elements. "Stop the Steal" apparently was, and definitely caught them flat footed.

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by TheGRS on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:00AM (#25725173)
And yet they didn't, the Women's March following Trump's election was far larger and didn't lead to this.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by ghufran_syed on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:44AM (#25725072)
Because destroying people's businesses and livelihoods is more worthy somehow than damaging a political symbol where the damage will be paid for by taxpayers as a whole? They both seem morally wrong to me - The description "Damaging other people's property" seems applicable to both, or "equivalent", you might say?