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Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by SoSoRoCoCo on Sunday January 10, 2021 @08:41PM (#25723136)
> These are opinions though

Help me out here, Hacker News. This guy thinks: "Democrats attacked the capital", is an opinion.

How do we even talk to this person?

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by dane-pgp on Sunday January 10, 2021 @09:44PM (#25723708)
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play.

"They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

-- Jean-Paul Sartre

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by vladTheInhaler on Sunday January 10, 2021 @11:47PM (#25724649)
A channel called Innuendo Studios chronicles this tactic and many others in a series called The Alt-Right Playbook [1]. I found it enormously helpful to understand the mentality and tactics of a group that kind of doesn't make any sense.

[1] The Alt-Right Playbook: Control the Conversation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaPgDQkmqqM

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by youeseh on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:15AM (#25725292)
Those are great points in the video - I've seen them employed by people who care more about winning than the truth irrespective of political affiliation.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by Jtsummers on Sunday January 10, 2021 @08:58PM (#25723301)
You can't. People making absurdist statements like that and claiming them as "opinions" when someone rebuts them are the principle reason I stopped looking at social media sites (and I barely looked at it before then). If someone says, "The sun didn't rise today" and everyone else points out the sun in the sky, and their reply is "Well, that's, like, your opinion, man", it's safe to ignore them. Don't engage because they have tacitly admitted to being an unreasonable, delusional individual.
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by bryan_w on Sunday January 10, 2021 @11:34PM (#25724564)
> it's safe to ignore them. Don't engage because they have tacitly admitted to being an unreasonable, delusional individual.

We saw last Wednesday that it's no longer safe to ignore them.

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by nostromo on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:05AM (#25725661)
In my city every act of violence at BLM rallies was somehow blamed on white supremacist and Proud Boys by the local media and on social media.

We're fully post-fact now, and it's not just Republicans playing this game.

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by hndudette2 on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:50AM (#25725959)
Exactly, and no Dem ever gets deplatformed for these incessant lies that lead to violence and death. Shows you it's all an excuse to purge Republicans (liars though they may be)
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by Miner49er on Monday January 11, 2021 @08:05AM (#25728347)
You are just lying. Guillani did not say "Democrats attacked the capital" he said, "Also, there's equal if not more responsibility on the fascists who now running the Democrat Party, who have imposed censorship on these people, who have been singling them out for unfair treatment since the IRS started going after conservative groups."

That is an opinion.

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Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by SoSoRoCoCo on Sunday January 10, 2021 @09:52PM (#25723773)
Ok, I did. Explain to me where it says anything about lying is an opinion: https://bit.ly/39nLiwz
Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by wernercd on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:10AM (#25724814)
The same way he talks to you... with facts and evidence.

Either he has it or he doesn't.

The problem is many people act like evidence doesn't exist - just like with voter fraud.

Adults can talk to each other and listen ideas and make up their own mind without Daddy Tech deciding for them what's right or wrong. It's called personal responsibility and it's theoretically the corner stone of western society.

When "bad" ideas are removed from the public eye... they grow underground. The way to fight them is to make them public where truth will prevail.

Re:YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel by jonny_eh on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:39AM (#25725467)
He has something more powerful than facts, lies.