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Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by ilaksh on Saturday January 09, 2021 @04:43PM (#25705115)
I disagree. Censoring everyone and even further shutting down a critical infrastructure like app stores during an election means you have to wonder if that government is doing more harm than good.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by tester756 on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:02PM (#25705321)
how's "app store" critical infrastructure?

internet access should be enough

Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by BlueTemplar on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:09PM (#25705403)
It's critical for those people who's only computer is an iPhone.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by depressedpanda on Sunday January 10, 2021 @03:09AM (#25712194)
A single point of failure, so easily subverted by nefarious actors, seems like a grave architectural flaw on the iPhone to me.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by nevi-me on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:12PM (#25705442)
Apps and updates to apps. If much of the internet is crippled already, targeting app stores and YouTube could be seen to be limiting options effectively for users.

With app stores blocked, what prevents the government from blocking messaging apps next, as they won't have ways of providing updates to users? I'm referring to Telegram and what they've previously done to try circumvent blocking techniques.

Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by meibo on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:06PM (#25705358)
What can you do on your Apple iPhone without Apple servers? Hint: it's nothing.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by zxspectrum1982 on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:10PM (#25705420)
Meaning Epic is right: the Apple Store dependency and monopoly is abusive.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by zepto on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:36PM (#25705700)
If you choose to buy something like that, how is it ‘abuse’?
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by throwaway45349 on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:57PM (#25705930)
Sure, but there are only two choices.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by zepto on Saturday January 09, 2021 @07:05PM (#25706587)
So what? One choice gives you what you want.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by colejohnson66 on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:07PM (#25705377)
The stock apps include a web browser, email client, and more. Sure, the apps are what make the phone, but to say you can’t do anything on a stock iPhone is a lie. And for those inclined enough, there’s AltStore for sideloading.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by meibo on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:26PM (#25705594)
You do need an Apple account and constant connection to Apple servers to be able to sign development and AltStore apps - I assume for a govt that wants to block the store, blocking auth or signing servers is just one more line on a memo.

But of course you're right - you can use the web fine, provided the modern web apps you're using aren't crippled by Apple's slow API adoption in Safari, which is of course to drive you to the better experiences that are waiting for you in the hypothetically accessible App Store.

Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by reaperducer on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:31PM (#25705653)
What can you do on your Apple iPhone without Apple servers? Hint: it's nothing.

The Apple devices I use that are too old to talk to Apple's servers disagree with you.

Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by Ekaros on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:32PM (#25705660)
Make phone calls? Send text messages? Or has Apple removed those features yet?
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by jimkleiber on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:09PM (#25705404)
I remember when building an Android app back in 2012-2014, that if it had in-app purchases, it seemed to have to go through the Play Store. I wonder if banning the Play Store will hinder apps that rely on in-app payments.

Anybody know?

Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by hulahoof on Sunday January 10, 2021 @06:05AM (#25713448)
Third party apps can handle payment however they want (e.g. gambling apps) but I would expect apps downloaded from the play store not to work if they are connect via play services
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by TaylorAlexander on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:05PM (#25705342)
"The internet" is both browser based web pages as well as various mobile phone based apps.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by frenchy on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:12PM (#25705450)
While you might consider software that runs on the internet to be part of the internet itself, not being able to run some of the software doesn't mean you can't access the internet.

A little bit less pedantically though, while this is certainly a blow to internet freedom, and not a good thing, I think most of us would agree (at least in the long-term) that access to the web is more important to freedom that a collection of proprietary apps.

Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by tester756 on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:31PM (#25705649)
what critical stuff is not avaliable via web browser but is via app?
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by throwaway45349 on Saturday January 09, 2021 @05:58PM (#25705937)
Banking, for one.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by tester756 on Saturday January 09, 2021 @06:22PM (#25706190)
why would banking not be avaliable via www?
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by throwaway45349 on Saturday January 09, 2021 @06:56PM (#25706519)
Many banks don't provide HTTP endpoints (except for business versions). My bank, Monzo, does not. My other bank TSB does provide a website, but it's awful.
Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by owowow on Sunday January 10, 2021 @03:46AM (#25712457)
Wait, you have to use a smartphone app to interact with your bank? There is no website with 95% of the functionality (or bonus functionality that the app doesn't have) available as a website for desktop users?

This is rather unusual, the credit union I use in the USA offers an iOS and Android app that is literally a webview of their mobile website, plus a dash of OCR for check handling. Using the PWA is nearly identical, it even works on a PinePhone with Maemo or any other operating system that can run a semi-modern browser.

Re:Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App St... by throwaway45349 on Sunday January 10, 2021 @11:51AM (#25716555)
Yup that's pretty much it. To Monzo's credit they seem to make a point to work without Google Play Services, but iOS users would be screwed in the event the App Store was blocked.