Re:The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance
by odessacubbage on Saturday January 09, 2021 @03:18PM
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because that is literally how you create a trained insurgency.
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Re:The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance
by rsynnott on Saturday January 09, 2021 @03:25PM
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Many countries have had to prune their police forces of extremists. East Germany, Northern Ireland, South Africa... Generally, the negative consequences of this have been minor and manageable; it's a path already well-trodden.
Re:The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance
by ciceryadam on Saturday January 09, 2021 @03:56PM
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Germany in 2019: https://m.dw.com/en/neo-nazi-scandal-hits-german-elite-milit...
Re:The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance
by rsynnott on Saturday January 09, 2021 @04:01PM
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That's absolutely a real and serious issue, but it's a separate issue to the dissolution and reform of the East German police during unification, which didn't lead to a communist insurgency.
Re:The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance
by ciceryadam on Saturday January 09, 2021 @11:02PM
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I completely agree, 2 separate issues, one was successfully finished, as there are no new Stasi members joining the police ranks - but the other issue is ever present. I think there should be "radicalization" checks for any people in position of power (Police/Military), and if they don't uphold the values of the country anymore, they should be let go from their jobs.
Re:The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance
by zbentley on Saturday January 09, 2021 @08:52PM
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Even if that's what would happen (and I don't think it is), an insurgency is better than those people being authorized agents of the state. Better of two bad alternatives, but deradicalization of in-power authorities while they still hold power is an impossibly tall order.