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Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by akamaka on Friday January 08, 2021 @10:43PM (#25696517)
Why ask me? I don’t claim to know what they’re thinking, I’m just skeptical at the idea that misogynists are so evenly distributed between genders.

Why don’t you actually go talk to pro-life people and really listen to what they have to say? You might discover a better line of argument than just saying “stop being a woman hater”.

Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by eyelidlessness on Friday January 08, 2021 @11:27PM (#25696973)
It’s not like this is a new concept for me. I’ve had plenty of conversations with women who want other women to carry pregnancies to term against their will. It’s almost always god’s will. One of my dearest friends takes a feminist perspective on it, but only in terms of cherry picked historical positioneering. I’ve yet to hear a single explanation for forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy to term that isn’t dehumanizing to the woman. Because it’s inherently is dehumanizing.

I’ll ask you again: isn’t forcing a woman to use her uterus to host another life against her will misogynist? You don’t have to be one of the women who share that view to agree that the women who don’t (and the large number of women who do but get abortions anyway) don’t deserve to be forced to be living fetus nurseries.

Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by akamaka on Saturday January 09, 2021 @12:39AM (#25697635)
You certainly can label it as misogyny if you wish to, and you’re not wrong, but ultimately it’s little more than a pejorative. Outside the confines of a Foucauldian academic discussion, these words are used to define and exclude people, not to understand them.

It damages our ability to have a constructive conversation with people who have opposing views, because it implies that they carry some unreasonable inner hatred of women within them, and that they can never be persuaded, only defeated and disempowered politically.

Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by eyelidlessness on Saturday January 09, 2021 @01:27AM (#25697971)
I don’t wish to carry on a conversation with people who want to force women to carry fetuses in their bodies. It is worth excluding from any further conversation. I’ve learned all I need to know about it. I want to defeat and disempower them so they can’t harm more women.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by joenot443 on Saturday January 09, 2021 @08:18AM (#25700116)
I wonder if you'll someday see that this dismissive, self-satisfied attitude is actually harming your cause much more than it is helping. All you're doing is coming off as the same brand of ideologue you're specifically trying to take down.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by eyelidlessness on Saturday January 09, 2021 @11:39AM (#25701792)
I’m not sure where you got the impression that the problem I have with anti-abortion is ideology. The problem is moral: they want to force women to be pregnant against their will. What is there to discuss? What would it benefit women who don’t want to be forced to be pregnant against their will for me to consider it more? Who would it convince? Who is going “oh maybe I don’t want to force women to be pregnant against their will, but this guy is certain about it so I’m gonna have to go ahead and force them after all”?
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by akamaka on Saturday January 09, 2021 @03:16AM (#25698599)
I hope you reconsider your approach. It won’t help you much if you one day find yourself in a persecuted minority.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by eyelidlessness on Saturday January 09, 2021 @11:39AM (#25701799)
I’m several thanks.