Let’s spend some time reading books, maybe we can go back to solving illusive pedophile rings online when we are better educated as a species.
And you putting all conservatives in the "solving illusive pedophile rings online" clearly shows you are living in an echo chamber.
You both have your points, both are probably right :)
Only in USA the word liberal has this very strange meaning one is forced to add "classical" to clarify its definition.
The billionaire in question is Trump, isn't it?
>Definition of Liberal used to be: "Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise."
Well this just comes back to the paradox of tolerance. I consider myself a liberal (in the British or non-American sense) and in my opinion fascism should not be tolerated.
Huh? The largest nation on the planet is literally a Communist nation and has its eyes set on being the global seat of power while simulatenously bribing half the world to look the other way.
The internment camps should be a clue.
Also, given the not even guarded political opinions of my overwhelmingly-Marxist peers who work in federal civil service jobs in the DC area, I think that we're far closer than you think.
But I will certainly agree the danger is in any collectivist-utopian promise for a government. They all rely on the same brutal methods like ethnic cleansing and tend to look the same other than what's written on their red armbands.
Possibly, but to me in the West I don't feel like there's any remotely plausible threat of communists coming to power in my country or any Western country that I know of.
> On the other hand, almost every western country has a socialist party in their respective parliament
I know I'm probably talking to an American here so I guess there's a reasonable chance that everything that isn't libertarian hyper-capitalism is literally Juche communism, but in reality, these mainstream so-called "socialist parties" in the West are overwhelmingly liberal in character. There are exceptions, such as Die Linke in Germany, and yeah I find them pretty vile, but they're mostly irrelevant. For example, I am British and our mainstream opposition party is nominally "socialist" but in actual fact fundamentally liberal and not at all about the overthrow of capitalism.
> As liberal doesn't it bother you that ideas which were the cause of so much misery in the world when implemented in communist countries are still being recycled over and over in parliaments of western countries
For the aforementioned reasons, where European "socialist" parties are more about making capitalism a little bit less American/cutthroat/fuck-you-I-got-mine, rather than literal democratic ownership of the means of production, no, not really. Europe is fundamentally capitalist and liberal.
What an unusual POV
civil rights movement: not liberal
Vietnam war protesters: not liberal
Where did you find these liberals? The don't seem to have much in common with the liberals I know.
Both parties work for different kind of billionaires. For instance, most of the problems that led to the 2008 housing crisis were the direct consequence of Bill Clinton's policies when it comes to deregulating Wall St, so it was a bit funny to hear all these democrats trying to look tough on bankers when they were directly responsible for the situation as legislators. But that's the game, that's politics.
Definition of Liberal used to be: "Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise."
I am still a liberal. But I am not the current liberal.