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Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by metiscus on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:17PM (#25691806)
Moving the discourse further away from the light won't help cure the divide in this country. We need more discussion, not less. We need to get both sides talking to each other not to themselves about each other.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by anigbrowl on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:38PM (#25692330)
Do we? Most discussions in comment sections between people of different persuasions tend to be toxic and abusive these days. when moderators attempt to impose standards of civility there's a chorus of complaints about 'censorship'. There have to be limits to patience with bad-faith dialog, otherwise you're just enabling trolls and abusive people.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by metiscus on Saturday January 09, 2021 @11:45AM (#25701870)
You and I probably have different political views and yet we are able to remain civil.

Everyone in my neighborhood, every single neighbor, speaks different languages, has different cultural origins and most are of different races. We don't support the same candidates or policy positions but we do all support and look out for each other.

I guess my point is, politeness even when there are significant disagreements is possible. We need to analyze the communications that do and don't work, find the similarities and patterns and encourage the beneficial ones while discouraging the negative ones.

Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by claudiawerner on Friday January 08, 2021 @10:37PM (#25696440)
>We need more discussion, not less.

Is there any reasoning for thinking this? Besides that, discussion cannot fix harms created by previous discussion - it can only (maybe) prevent future harms.

Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by bastawhiz on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:40PM (#25692372)
> We need more discussion, not less. We need to get both sides talking to each other

Parler heavily moderates away any non-right-wing content. There was never "both sides" on Parler. If it's actively being used to plan and execute acts of violence (arguably terrorism, given the death, bombs, and more that we've seen this week), how does keeping Parler around bring anyone together?

Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by ironman1478 on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:20PM (#25691863)
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Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by ironman1478 on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:26PM (#25691996)
I didn't know either of those things. Deleted.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by zionic on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:58PM (#25692761)
My post was supposed to be over the top sarcastic, sorry for not including the /s
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Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by zionic on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:59PM (#25692783)
I should have included the /s, my bad. I thought the whole “10 off from a nazi number” part was obvious.

I’m now kind of depressed it wasn’t.

Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by malloreon on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:21PM (#25691877)
you're making the incorrect assumption that both sides of the discourse have valid positions.

1. what is a non-racist person supposed to say to a racist person to change their views?

2. why is it the non-racist person's responsibility to talk to the racist person? in the words of office space, "why should I change? he's the one who sucks."

Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by haram_masala on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:31PM (#25692100)
Let’s not assume that one “side” is racist and the other isn’t. It’s both wrong and unproductive.
Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by anigbrowl on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:41PM (#25692407)
But racism isn't being attributed to any particular 'side' by that comment, which raises a valid question.

Racists do exist in considerable numbers and post prolifically online, so what should non-racists say to people like that?

Re:Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store by metiscus on Friday January 08, 2021 @06:24PM (#25691940)
The 1960s and 1970s saw a reckoning in the USA that while not complete, did result in a number of people with substantially incorrect views eventually coming about to a more sensible position.

Similar victories have been achieved with respect to drug legalization and "gay marriage".

None of these victories are or ever will be complete but a combination of discussion and social pressure did make significant social progress possible.