malloreon

Unless Carmack doesn’t have the ability to quit, he’s choosing to continue working for Zuck every day.

As is every other fb employee.

Spare some disdain for the people who choose to work for him.

They deserve it: they commit the evil for far smaller a payoff.

I wonder if facebook employees really think they paper over the harm they do each day by renaming their company.

if you call it something else does it still hurt people?

Can’t read the article, but did they quit the company when their pleas didn’t work?

If not, they changed their opinion and now support/accept their employer’s decision or decided the issue wasn’t that important.

45,000 fb employees choose every day to work for him. The responsibility for what fb is is just as much theirs.

If they didn’t agree with fb’s actions they’d leave.

100% true.

If a software engineer writes software that hurts people, they believe in hurting people and believe people should be hurt.

If they didn’t, they wouldn’t write software that hurts people.

The impressive amount of freedom tech workers have to choose what they work on means the ethical and moral issues with their production should fall on each person’s shoulders, but it doesn’t.

FB is what it is because 45,000 employees work hard daily to make it that way.

if they weren't satisfied with how it works or what it does, they'd fix it or they'd leave. every day they continue to work there without changing direction, they vote with their time that FB is doing what it ought to be doing.

all of the responsibility for FB's effects on the world belongs to them.

I'd like to try this if there was an option to do so without giving Facebook money.

If Facebook employees weren’t happy with the product they spend so much of their time shaping and building they’d leave.

Blast from the past!

My good friend Daniel Horn started developing this right around when I met him in high school.

Everyone on this page spends a lotta words saying Facebook is evil while ignoring that 40,000 employees work hard every day to make it that evil.

Facebook doesn’t exist in its current form without their tireless efforts.

The term “meatspace” has always bothered me.

It’s “real life.” The internet is the illusion.

Reminds me of https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nimble/nimble-salon-qua..., seen a lotta YouTube ads for this lately.

there are costs to employing someone that don't vary with number of hours worked.

The person you're responding to wants 100% of their current healthcare plan but only half the salary/expected hours, for example.

Why only Zuck and not every FB employee?

They all benefit from what FB does, just because he makes the most from it doesn't mean the rest of them aren't partially responsible.

I’m at a loss to understand why your statement means this person, or anyone who increases the suffering of others in the pursuit of their own personal wealth, shouldn’t feel bad about doing so.

you're making the incorrect assumption that both sides of the discourse have valid positions.

1. what is a non-racist person supposed to say to a racist person to change their views?

2. why is it the non-racist person's responsibility to talk to the racist person? in the words of office space, "why should I change? he's the one who sucks."

Facebook makes far too much money showing ads to their "more conservative user base" to do anything more than token gestures to stop racism and calls to violence.

What’s to stop me, as a journal publisher, from saying, “hmmm, yes, Indian government? So that will be...1.35 billion subscriptions, yes?”

I have a side project that didn't make money, then did, and now effectively does not.

I write novels: I've published 10 so far. I didn't make any money for a while, but all in all I've sold about 80,000 copies. I haven't published anything new since 2018 and my sales have since dried up completely.

Fiction is a product market fit game first: if you don't write what people want to read, they won't read it. After that, it is a quantity game. New books come out every day, if you don't keep releasing more stories, people will forget you.

getting back to writing is one of my 2021 goals.

if I remember correctly Jan and Brian collectively left over $1B on the table rather than stay at facebook for another 1-2 years.

I'm curious if Facebook has done anything to fix this in the 3 years since this article.