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Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by amyjess on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:16PM (#25688850)
They took selfies with the insurrectionists. They were complicit.
Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by djsumdog on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:31PM (#25689114)
> insurrectionists

Peaceful protestors.

Were the BLM people who stormed city hall in Seattle insurrectionists? Where the Black Panthers who took the California State Capitol in the 1970s insurrectionists?

Stop with the bullshit name games. These were not rioters. They didn't set anything on fire. They should not have stolen or broken anything. That's wrong and bad and should be condemned. Those people should get federal time

But man...you have to admit...there is something beautiful about the peasants entering the royal court, and the town idiot putting his feet up on the table that belongs to the Hand of the King.

The villagers entered the royal court and the senators clutched their pearls.

America has had a long history of occupying federal buildings. This is certainly not unprecedented.

These people were not a coup or insurrection. They had no plan. There was no person with a new founding document they were going to read. They didn't bring in an armed force and take and occupy the capital.

The overreaction to what happened is fucking insane, especially compared to what actual Rioters where allowed to get away with for the past year. In May, DC was literally on fire from the BLM riots, and we didn't see this type of DoubleSpeak.

Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by amyjess on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:44PM (#25689312)
Storming the capitol to stop the certification of an election whose result t hey didn't like is the very definition of an attempted coup d'etat.

They had zip ties meant for the purpose of taking hostages: https://twitter.com/Adiscen/status/1347189171362918400

IEDs were found at the DNC and RNC: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/pipe-bomb-rnc... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abc-news-exclusive-photo-sus...

Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by chrisco255 on Friday January 08, 2021 @04:17PM (#25690635)
They were let in. The guy with the zip ties is likely an undercover agent.
Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by FireBeyond on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:26PM (#25689976)
> The overreaction ... In May, DC was literally on fire from the BLM riots

Speaking of overreactions ...

> They didn't set anything on fire. They should not have stolen or broken anything. That's wrong and bad and should be condemned.

Okay, so to be clear, there's a difference between breaking things with your hands and setting it on fire. One is "bad", and one is "rioting". Huh, interesting.

Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by cmrdporcupine on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:43PM (#25690194)
Black Panthers were literally insurrectionists and wore that badge with pride.
Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by Sohcahtoa82 on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:05PM (#25689658)
> Were the BLM people who stormed city hall in Seattle insurrectionists? Where the Black Panthers who took the California State Capitol in the 1970s insurrectionists?

No, because their goal wasn't to overturn a legally held election.

> They had no plan.

You got that part right.

Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by zaroth on Friday January 08, 2021 @04:58PM (#25691067)
> No, because their goal wasn't to overturn a legally held election.

When BLM stormed and occupied the city hall in Seattle, their primary demand was to remove the mayor.

https://youtu.be/aA1GHvHzy8M

“Hey hey. Ho ho. Jenny Durkan’s got to go!”

Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by g8oz on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:51PM (#25689410)
Some were armed and an IED was found. I recommend avoiding identity protective cognition when analyzing these events.
Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by dvirsky on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:50PM (#25689404)
People planted pipe bombs in the capitol building. Wow, such peaceful, much protest.
Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by optical on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:08PM (#25689701)
> The overreaction to what happened is fucking insane, especially compared to what actual Rioters where allowed to get away with for the past year. In May, DC was literally on fire from the BLM riots, and we didn't see this type of DoubleSpeak.

Not really when you consider that the protests in may were for the correct side with the media and elites fully on board. They were for all intents and purposes sanctioned events. The 6th mob was absolutely terrifying for the media and elite since they had zero control over it. What looks like just another mob riot to a common peasant appears to be an actual threat to those which never see threats.

Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by jquery on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:00PM (#25689563)
> But man...you have to admit...there is something beautiful about the peasants entering the royal court, and the town idiot putting his feet up on the table that belongs to the Hand of the King. >The villagers entered the royal court and the senators clutched their pearls.

I agree. Although I’m definitely anti-Trump and condemn his garbage about the election being stolen, and while I don’t condone the behavior of the protestors, I don’t really see how this so much worse than business owners who had their livelihoods destroyed during the BLM riots over the summer. I don’t remember CNN or Democrats tripping over themselves to see who could use the harshest language for what had happened.

Again I’m not condoning this, but honestly, given what happened, the only real tragedy was a woman was shot because a jumpy police officer shot blindly into a crowd. Our pride was embarrassed but that’s ok. Let’s learn from this and make sure it doesn’t happen again.

The real problem with what happened is Trump incited it. But that’s another story.

Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by rubycon22 on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:04PM (#25689644)
Haha yeah, there wasn't this much outrage before because it was the peasant's businesses being destroyed. Protesting is now bad because it actually affected the rich, political class.

Look at how different the MSM response was. Destroyed businesses and disruption to innocent people's lives was a necessary sacrifice for BLM riots. And best of all, covid is only dangerous depending on what you're protesting for. But some people going into a building?! No! Stop that!

Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by vsssk on Friday January 08, 2021 @05:41PM (#25691475)
I don't understand how people can confidently draw such equivalencies. Just looking at the frequency of the two types of events.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_racial_violence_in_the_Un...

How many is that? I can't even count. More than 50, less than 100? Versus 10, possibly way less, depending on what kind of comparisons one wants to draw? [1]

Doesn't this point exactly to the significance of what happened on the 6th? Race riots have been happening in the United States for a hundred some years. They are obviously not significant in achieving the goals of the rioters. Meanwhile the storming of seats of power by an ousted leaders' supporters has the potential to change history. The former is a passing event, the latter is a rare event with some potential to change global history.

[1] https://www.livescience.com/political-violence-us-capital.ht...

Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by kelchqvjpnfasjl on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:48PM (#25689376)
I could pull up pictures of police kneeling with BLM this summer.
Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by amyjess on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:50PM (#25689401)
Inviting insurrectionists into the capitol to stop the certification of an election they didn't like by force is different from... giving their support to people who are against unarmed black people being murdered on sight.
Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by Sohcahtoa82 on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:08PM (#25689710)
Yeah, they kneeled for the photo op, then deployed tear gas an hour later.
Re:Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S... by kelchqvjpnfasjl on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:37PM (#25690118)
Deploying tear gas like they did in the Capitol here:

https://twitter.com/aletweetsnews/status/1346948665013751809

https://twitter.com/RichieMcGinniss/status/13469488668689776...

https://twitter.com/KathrynDiss/status/1346947617893265421

I saw a video yesterday of tear gas being used inside the capitol building but today I was only able to find videos of when it was used outside.