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Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by watwut on Friday January 08, 2021 @01:51PM (#25688388)
Because otherwise they will try to overturn elections and install one party state.

Or because their opinions leads them to construct bombs or shoot people.

Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by jakearmitage on Friday January 08, 2021 @01:57PM (#25688526)
This is a textbook example of a straw man.
Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by watwut on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:07PM (#25688693)
How is it strawman? Those are actual real world actions people commited, because of their opinions.

Not even month ago. Ignoring yesterday, there was plan and attempt to execute Mitchigan governor last few months. There was Nashville boombing, likely due to whatever conspiracy theory that man believed.

Even Elliot Rodger had opinions largely from incels chans.

Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by jakearmitage on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:21PM (#25688942)
Let me use another scenario. 1969, Brazil. Members of a revolutionary group kidnapped the US Ambassador. After that, and a few other incidents, the government used the same argument you presented to review and approve contents of newspapers, magazines, radio shows, movies and correspondence.

Do you believe it is OK to do this, in order to disrupt their planning? Do you believe it becomes not-OK if the target of domestic terror is a tyrannical government?

The very same situation has happened across all of South America throughout the 20th Century.

[1]: https://www.insidehook.com/article/history/kidnapped-why-an-...

Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by watwut on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:28PM (#25689055)
You asked following: "Why do you want to go to great lengths and "educate" people on your point of view?"

The only strawman in this thread is the one made by you in the comment I am responding to now.

Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by neaden on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:10PM (#25688748)
How is it a strawman, it literally just happened a few days ago.
Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by ravenstine on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:48PM (#25689372)
They may be referring to the first statement, which in my experience doesn't seem true. I've never heard conservatives, Republicans, or Trump supporters argue for a one party state. That may be my failing, however.
Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by Sohcahtoa82 on Friday January 08, 2021 @04:01PM (#25690450)
> I've never heard conservatives, Republicans, or Trump supporters argue for a one party state.

Trump praised China for paving the way to make Xi Jinping's presidency permanent

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-china/trump-praises...

> “He’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great,” Trump said, according to audio of excerpts of Trump’s remarks at a closed-door fundraiser in Florida aired by CNN. “And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” Trump said to cheers and applause from supporters.

Which IMO implies support for a one-party state.

Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by neaden on Friday January 08, 2021 @03:53PM (#25690348)
What do you think it means when you lose an election, and then try to disrupt the democratic process with the goal of having the loser of the election retain power?
Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by blisterpeanuts on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:09PM (#25688732)
> "Or because their opinions leads them to construct bombs or shoot people."

Who exactly is "they"? Anyone who disagrees with you? Anyone who votes for a Republican candidate? Trump supporters? Some subset of Trump supporters who say the election was fraudulent? What about Trump supporters who say the election MAY have been fraudulent -- do they also get silenced?

This is a slippery slope. You either have freedom of speech, or you don't. Muzzling people who have ideas you consider dangerous has a way of blowing back in your face; in fact it almost guarantees violence, when people feel they are not allowed to vent.

Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by neaden on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:31PM (#25689120)
The people who literally stormed the capital earlier this week, some of whom brought equipment like zipties with the intention of kidnapping/hostage taking. Those specific people who we all literally just saw doing the thing on basically every TV Channel while some of them literally livestreamed themselves doing it. This is in no way ambiguous at all.
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Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by blisterpeanuts on Friday January 08, 2021 @07:04PM (#25692879)
Well from my perspective, you're part of the problem. Good day.
Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by dang on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @02:00AM (#25743349)
Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25743160. We ban accounts that get into flamewars like this.
Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by neaden on Friday January 08, 2021 @07:20PM (#25693171)
This isn't about perspective. You are the one actually saying lies. Don't try to turn this around into some thing where it just two equal opinions. It is truth vs lies, and you are choosing lies.
Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by dang on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @02:01AM (#25743357)
(Sorry for the delay but I've been swamped since this conflagration.)

Posts like this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25691491 and many others you posted in these recent threads are not acceptable on HN, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. We ban this sort of account, regardless of which politics they're battling for. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here.

Please make sure you're not using HN primarily for political battle—it's against the guidelines and it's the line across which we start banning accounts (https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...), again regardless of which politics they're battling for. The reason is that it basically destroys what HN is supposed to exist for, which is curious conversation on a wide range of topics.

Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by watwut on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:31PM (#25689112)
They are people who put bomb in RNC and brought one to capitol a day before yeasterday. They includes nashville bomber and whoever organized Mitchigan terrorist plot.

They are also proud boys starting fights. It is not like US would have shortage of organized political violence lately. It is pretty easy to find "they".

Re:Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” by blisterpeanuts on Friday January 08, 2021 @02:54PM (#25689472)
Your evidence is quite flimsy.

The Nashville bomber was one guy committing suicide and he even warned in advance.

The Michigan kidnapping plot was about 5-6 idiots who did not represent some kind of farflung organization.

The Proud Boys have not started fights, to my knowledge. They have marched peacefully down the street holding U.S. flags and the like, and been violently attacked by antifa elements. They show up at left wing/antifa demonstrations but don't attack; they fight back when provoked. They've been demonized by left wing news as "white supremacists" ironically even though their leader is a black guy.

So when you say "it is pretty easy to find 'they'", you need to support that statement. It's pretty easy to make stuff up, too, and I believe a lot of people are being censored on the basis of hearsay and madeup nonsense.