Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach

Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by anigbrowl on Thursday January 07, 2021 @02:24PM (#25675928)

I expect the security personnel to be trained and the mob to not be trained.

The latter assumption is a serious mistake. Sure, the mob is not as well trained as professionals, but when you consider the number of vets with some military experience, the fairly large numbers of militia organizations which provide amateur levels of training in both virtual and real contexts, and the high availability of training materials (military manuals etc), it's smart to assume that any given mob will contain some people who know what they're doing and are able to direct others.

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Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by baybal2 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @03:34PM (#25677060)

If they would've used their military experience, they would've not came unarmed.

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Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by anigbrowl on Thursday January 07, 2021 @05:02PM (#25678207)

Not all of them did: https://twitter.com/keith_rosson/status/1346993989057093634

But DC has rather strict laws about firearms, so it was rational to rely on a swarming approach and then try to exploit the gains from that tactic. While the attempt to take over the capitol failed insofar as Congress reconvened to finish the process of counting electoral college votes, and many of the participants have been or are about to be arrested, the far right has scored an outstanding propaganda victory (complete with photogenic martyrs) at little real cost. I would say 2021 has got off to a spectacular start for them.

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Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by baybal2 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @05:37PM (#25678645)

Cannot agree with you on firearms point, but more or less on everything else.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1347277542588...

If your aim is to stage a putsch for real, you wouldn't be bothered by some gun laws, you would've gone all in.

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Re:Infosec implications of the US Capitol physical breach by anigbrowl on Friday January 08, 2021 @01:02PM (#25687612)

The thing is, you don't want to get shut down before you start. There were in fact a few arrests for firearms possession earlier that morning, before the rally near the White House had convened. Once attention had shifted to the Capitol, I imagine there was much less police surveillance on the surrounding streets (until the National Guard were eventually deployed).

But you make a good point; perhaps the plotters over-relied on shock value and ended up half-assing it, or perhaps there was no more plan other than stirring up disorder and hoping to capitalize on an emergency situation.

I'm pessimistic about the long-term implications; the far right gave up on the idea of a political solution some time ago and the less far right is now about ready to join them.

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