Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours
by CodeMage on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @10:24PM
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Thanks! As an immigrant, I'm still not very well versed in American history.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours
by klipt on Thursday January 07, 2021 @01:06AM
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That's a specific crime though. If Trump says "I pardon all Parler users for all crimes", can Parler start selling its accounts as a "get out of federal crimes free" card?
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours
by Larrikin on Thursday January 07, 2021 @01:18AM
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Pardons can not apply to future crimes, only crimes already committed and only to those specified at the time of pardon. Someone joining after would need to be pardoned again
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours
by arp242 on Thursday January 07, 2021 @03:41AM
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Also, the President can only pardon federal crimes. States can still prosecute.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours
by UncleSlacky on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:09AM
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Not so, Ford pardoned Nixon for any (i.e. unspecified) crimes he might be accused of doing while President.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours
by Larrikin on Thursday January 07, 2021 @10:43AM
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The Nixon pardon was issued after he left office and was for any crimes he committed while in office. Specifically in the past.
Re:The account of realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours
by dredmorbius on Thursday January 07, 2021 @01:29AM
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Good point, and a specific past offence, rather than any possible future offence committed by some rather nebulously-identified class of people.
But the Carter case does address the circumstance of pardoning a large (and arguably unknowably large) class.
President Carter pardons draft dodgers
On January 21, 1977, U.S. President Jimmy Carter grants an unconditional pardon to hundreds of thousands of men who evaded the draft during the Vietnam War.
In total, some 100,000 young Americans went abroad in the late 1960s and early 70s to avoid serving in the war. Ninety percent went to Canada, where after some initial controversy they were eventually welcomed as immigrants. Still others hid inside the United States. In addition to those who avoided the draft, a relatively small number–about 1,000–of deserters from the U.S. armed forces also headed to Canada. While the Canadian government technically reserved the right to prosecute deserters, in practice they left them alone, even instructing border guards not to ask too many questions.
<https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/president-carter...>
(Not an endorsement of a mass pardon of all Parler members.)