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Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by cltby on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:06PM (#25663280)
It's quite unfair to call them terrorists when they've harmed no one and destroyed nothing. Remember, riots are the voice of the unheard!
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by miguelmota on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:31PM (#25663557)
> It's quite unfair to call them terrorists when they've harmed no one and destroyed nothing.

People were harmed and property was destroyed. There's plenty of videos of fights breaking out and capitol windows being broken.

https://twitter.com/search?q=washingtondc%20windows%20until%...

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by refurb on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @11:19PM (#25667239)
I thought “people over property”? This seemed like a “mostly peaceful” protest. Or have the rules changed now that it’s the other side doing it?
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by kadoban on Thursday January 07, 2021 @12:01AM (#25667460)
Four people are dead. The building was ransacked. Bombs were placed. There were people obviously planning kidnapping (kidnapping at the least, most likely the plan included murder). This was not a peaceful protest.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by refurb on Thursday January 07, 2021 @12:40AM (#25667648)
Please don’t report rumors as facts.

The only dead person was one of the protestors.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by kadoban on Thursday January 07, 2021 @08:57AM (#25671043)
If you check the news I think you'll see my information was correct. Please don't allege rumormongering when you may just be missing facts.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by lm28469 on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:34PM (#25663600)
> they've harmed no one

Besides the democratic process

> destroyed nothing

Besides the capitol

> the voice of the unheard!

I've been hearing about them weekly for the last 4 years and I'm not even in the US

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @06:35PM (#25664328)
> It’s quite unfair to call them terrorists when they’ve harmed no one and destroyed nothing.

There have been quite a number of injuries and property damage, deployment of chemical irritants by the mob against law enforcement, and several explosive devices identified and defused in the attempt to use violence and threats of further violence to overturn the results of the recent election.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by cltby on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:17PM (#25665898)
> There have been quite a number of injuries and property damage, deployment of chemical irritants by the mob against law enforcement, and several explosive devices identified and defused

You're right, I've revised my view of the incident. I now see this constitutes sedition, an attack on our very republic.

For consistency, I've also reconsidered my view of the BLM riots. In light of the billions in property damage; the tens of direct deaths and thousands of ensuing murders; the violent mob attacks on law enforcement, replete with "chemical irritants" and Molotov cocktails; all on a scale 1e3 to 1e5 larger than what's happening in DC; I have to conclude they were a grave act of terrorism.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by radicalriddler on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:10PM (#25663322)
They are disrupting political process via force in the name of ideology. They're domestic terrorists.
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Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @06:37PM (#25664355)
> Yassss, let’s send them to Gitmo to get water boarded!

People that think Camp X-Ray is a crime against humanity don’t think that it is because no one there is an actual terrorist, but because being an actual terrorist doesn’t justify what is and has been done at Camp X-Ray.

So, yeah, these people shouldn’t be “sent to Gitmo”. Not because they aren’t terrorists (they are) but because that’s not what we should do to terrorists.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by cltby on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:18PM (#25663408)
The standard was set last summer. Leftists spent three months torching police stations, attacking courthouses, looting businesses, and confronting politicians in their homes. I continue to be assiduously reminded that none of this constituted terrorism. Don't see why this should be treated any differently.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by vharuck on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:57PM (#25666277)
Show me the politician inciting the Summer's arsonists to destruction.

There are always people taking advantage of or inciting chaos to do reckless things. They need to be tried and, if found guilty, punished. Even if they're the president.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by refurb on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @09:14PM (#25666430)
Show me the politician inciting the Summer's arsonists to destruction.

"People over property" is probably the most direct encouragement of property destruction.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by 8note on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:32PM (#25665257)
Both you and the folks replying to you are painting with a broad brush.

Only some small portion of these protests are likely to be violent bad actors, and the proper protesters should not be disrupted by law enforcement

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by birdyrooster on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:58PM (#25663879)
Sure, but they didn't interfere in the election of the President. Open your eyes.
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Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by orf on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @06:27PM (#25664219)
Feel free to link then here so everyone’s eyes can be opened to the clear evidence of election fraud and definitely not some wakko randomer running their mouth on Facebook live.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by meetups323 on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:22PM (#25663454)
At least one person has been shot. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1346918654076723202
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Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @06:22PM (#25664152)
> One of the peaceful protestors was apparently shot in the neck by law enforcement.

One of the participants in the violent, felonious (18 USC Secs. 111, 231, 372, 1361, 1752, 2101, 2383, 2384, and possibly others) conspiracy, you mean.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by birdyrooster on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @06:00PM (#25663904)
That was not a peaceful protestor, if you are storming the Capitol while it is in session, you are violent.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by 8note on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:30PM (#25665202)
You can do that non-violently
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by birdyrooster on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:26PM (#25665981)
You can't break and enter non-violently.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by ChrisLomont on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:26PM (#25665978)
..... not while breaking down windows and doors and climbing into the building while armed and chasing security with a mob.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by refurb on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @09:16PM (#25666439)
So when Antifa was firebombing Portland City Hall you'd call that violent as well? It happened for months.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by triceratops on Thursday January 07, 2021 @12:10AM (#25667499)
They firebombed a single building for "months"? That sounds excessive. /s
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by ultraluminous on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @09:39PM (#25666625)
Except that it actually didn't?
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by refurb on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @11:23PM (#25667256)
Are you serious? Even the mayor of Portland wants help cracking down.

And what about BLM protestors attacking Republicans like Rand Paul in DC?

But the media conveniently made excuse why it was “mostly peaceful” then a few Trump loonies barge their way into the capital, one of them gets shot, and “it’s a coup attempt”.

The double standard is amazing.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by Ericson2314 on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:58PM (#25663872)
It's true. "terrorism" is a bad word and we should not use it. The definition prohibits an objective meaning.

And I would rather see this police response for BLM, than that response for these people.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by Ericson2314 on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:58PM (#25665683)
Say the dead comment I can't reply to:

> Thats probably because you hate black people more than you respect Democracy.

this is extra funny to me because it is also mathematically bogus. I'm saying I very much don't want the cops harassing BLM protests, even if it the price is letting these protests vandalize the Capitol building.

Maybe poster meant "That's probably because you like black people more than you respect Democracy". To which I answer, "...you call the Senate Democracy?"

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by recursive on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:12PM (#25663336)
I saw a video on twitter of a window getting destroyed.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by cardiffspaceman on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:35PM (#25663615)
There is a photo going around of a man carrying off a dais across the Rotunda. The British web site I saw it on made a joke about Antiques Roadshow.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by dwaltrip on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:35PM (#25663618)
They broke into the Capitol building. Smashed windows. They've attempted to break into the House and Senate chambers.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by RIMR on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @06:01PM (#25663908)
This was an act of political intimidation intended to derail a legislative body's constitutional duties.

It absolutely fits the definition of terrorism.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by refurb on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @09:17PM (#25666448)
All I read on HN is how terrorism isn't a big deal, doesn't kill many people.

So this might be terrorism, but no big deal right?