Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge
by f6v on Monday January 04, 2021 @03:51PM
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Yeah, lockdown parties are a basic human right.
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Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge
by jeofken on Monday January 04, 2021 @04:02PM
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Agreed. No man has the right to violently hinder free people from living free. My body is my property and not the property of the state.
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge
by ubercow13 on Monday January 04, 2021 @07:02PM
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Any state on the planet will violently hinder their people from doing certain things, that one of the jobs of most police forces. Often it's to protect the rights of other 'free people' in the population.
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge
by jeofken on Monday January 04, 2021 @07:32PM
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Like my body is my property are the bodies of others also property of theirs, and I have no right to violate their property right. It is instead right to proportionally defend rightfully owned property.
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge
by djsumdog on Monday January 04, 2021 @04:11PM
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Gathering is a basic human right:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
There is no reason stated. There is no exception for "virus." Human rights laws were not written for fair weather. They were written for crisis and disaster.
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge
by 0xffff2 on Monday January 04, 2021 @04:54PM
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Quoting the US constitution in a thread about the UK doesn't make much sense. Is there a similar legal doctrine in the UK?
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge
by jeofken on Monday January 04, 2021 @05:19PM
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Our natural rights are God-given and true since all men are equal children of creation, and thus no man has the right to stand above any other and deny them their right to speech or to gather.
I am the property of myself and have the sole right of ownership - not anyone employed by the state.
This was worded well by the writers of the American constitution, but the idea is as old as time - it’s the idea of universalist ethics.