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Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by malka on Monday January 04, 2021 @03:39PM (#25637545)
Because UK is not a dictatorship. China is.
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by f6v on Monday January 04, 2021 @03:51PM (#25637750)
Yeah, lockdown parties are a basic human right.
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by jeofken on Monday January 04, 2021 @04:02PM (#25637971)
Agreed. No man has the right to violently hinder free people from living free. My body is my property and not the property of the state.
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by ubercow13 on Monday January 04, 2021 @07:02PM (#25640049)
Any state on the planet will violently hinder their people from doing certain things, that one of the jobs of most police forces. Often it's to protect the rights of other 'free people' in the population.
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by jeofken on Monday January 04, 2021 @07:32PM (#25640362)
Like my body is my property are the bodies of others also property of theirs, and I have no right to violate their property right. It is instead right to proportionally defend rightfully owned property.
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by djsumdog on Monday January 04, 2021 @04:11PM (#25638116)
Gathering is a basic human right:

     Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
There is no reason stated. There is no exception for "virus." Human rights laws were not written for fair weather. They were written for crisis and disaster.
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by 0xffff2 on Monday January 04, 2021 @04:54PM (#25638762)
Quoting the US constitution in a thread about the UK doesn't make much sense. Is there a similar legal doctrine in the UK?
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by jeofken on Monday January 04, 2021 @05:19PM (#25639061)
Our natural rights are God-given and true since all men are equal children of creation, and thus no man has the right to stand above any other and deny them their right to speech or to gather.

I am the property of myself and have the sole right of ownership - not anyone employed by the state.

This was worded well by the writers of the American constitution, but the idea is as old as time - it’s the idea of universalist ethics.

Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by f6v on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @08:13AM (#25645127)
Well, maybe God wants the government to lock you up. How do you know?
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by jeofken on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:53PM (#25648461)
It’s colourful language, I’d advice reading it as such
Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by Gibbon1 on Monday January 04, 2021 @03:58PM (#25637884)
By that logic when the UK should have done nothing as Germany Invaded Poland and France. And then nothing as German troops landed.

The real fact is people that argue and resist taking action against Covid because 'mah freedumbs' are seriously undermining democratic governments. Basically making authoritarian governments point for them.

Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by ketamine__ on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @04:02AM (#25643595)
Lots of politicians are refusing to get the vaccine. Something about waiting their turn. That seriously undermines democratic governments in a pandemic.

I don't understand mocking freedoms. There are many people in nursing homes that want to see their families but can't. They are angry because the caretakers can see their families but they can't. Will you mock them too?

Re:Covid: New lockdown for England as cases surge by Gibbon1 on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @04:40PM (#25651512)
I'm not mocking freedoms are pointing out that if you want to keep them you need to act like you can be trusted with them.