Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by grumple on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:15AM
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The NBPA has overseen a huge increase in NBA player's wages over the past few decades, both at the top and for the average or minimum player. Yes, there's a salary cap, but that actually helps the vast majority of players, because otherwise Lebron would get paid 200M/year and the minimum/average players would get basically nothing, and it also ensures competitiveness.
A salary cap is not a reason unions are bad when the salary cap is 800x the average person's income...
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by pmyteh on Monday January 04, 2021 @09:08AM
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The abolition of the maximum wage was arguably a consequence of organisation by the PFA under Jimmy Hill. I agree that the picture is mixed.
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by Mauricebranagh on Monday January 04, 2021 @09:08AM
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But when Jimmy Hill became secretary the PFA did succeed in vastly improving things early 1960's
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by CydeWeys on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:28AM
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> and could trade them like slaves under the "retain-and-transfer"
Don't you see a little bit of an issue with this wording? Namely that said players were paid for their labor and could quit playing football at any time?
Incorrect, the first footballer's union was from 1898 [1].
> I don't think unionization had any effect on their salaries
Despite the existence of the union, clubs could impose a salary cap on players well into the 1960s, and could trade them like slaves under the "retain-and-transfer" system [2] until the EU forbade that practice in the 1990s [3].
All in all, football is a very bad example for the success of unions. Unions helped jack shit to get players out of an exploitative situation - every improvement was hard-won in courts by individual footballers.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_Footballers%27_Uni...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retain_and_transfer_system
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosman_ruling