Re:Pentagon Puts F-35 Full-Rate Production Decision on Hold
by sandworm101 on Saturday January 02, 2021 @06:36PM
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That thing should be called Valkryie II. The Valkyrie was a much more impressive aircraft, an almost legend that is too often forgotten.
Re:Pentagon Puts F-35 Full-Rate Production Decision on Hold
by bigphishy on Sunday January 03, 2021 @12:23AM
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The Valkyrie was a legend. Looks like it inspired the concord.
Re:Pentagon Puts F-35 Full-Rate Production Decision on Hold
by toomuchtodo on Saturday January 02, 2021 @08:19PM
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Isn’t a Global Hawk, Triton, or similar with high altitude loiter capabilities and StarLink support not a more pragmatic option for such a role? They’re also unmanned. If carrier support is required, there’s the X-47B/X-47C vehicle.
Platforms should go high and slow (but faster when necessary, when in range of bad times). Ordinance should go fast, very fast, with no people onboard.
Re:Pentagon Puts F-35 Full-Rate Production Decision on Hold
by dodobirdlord on Sunday January 03, 2021 @04:17AM
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UAVs like the Global Hawk or Triton aren't large enough to be fast enough to be useful against enemy fighters. As for StarLink, all relevant LEO satellites are coming down in the early stages of any open combat between the US and a near-peer adversary. To contest air superiority requires a platform that goes very fast and can see very far. To fight enemy fighters or to strike ground targets in places without air superiority a stealth fighter large enough to be fast and to carry a long-range sensing and jamming suite is needed.
Re:Pentagon Puts F-35 Full-Rate Production Decision on Hold
by toomuchtodo on Monday January 04, 2021 @12:41PM
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My point is that fighters are obsolete. Sensor platforms get you the target, long range ordinance kills the target. Dog fights are dead like the SR71, which was obsoleted by orbital surveillance. See from afar, kill from afar, and stop trying to put a human onboard.
Re:Pentagon Puts F-35 Full-Rate Production Decision on Hold
by waiseristy on Saturday January 02, 2021 @06:39PM
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That's what Lockheed-Martin has been saying, but I'm pretty sure the F-35 is still deployed along-side an AWACS. And with more and better satellite imagery & communication. I just don't see why we need this extremely capable and expensive flying network router.
Re:Pentagon Puts F-35 Full-Rate Production Decision on Hold
by dodobirdlord on Saturday January 02, 2021 @06:54PM
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AWACS can be shot down by near-peer adversaries. And satellites travel in known orbits and have no capacity to evade. It's well known at this point that nations that can make current-generation fighter jets can also shoot down satellites.
Re:Pentagon Puts F-35 Full-Rate Production Decision on Hold
by chmod775 on Saturday January 02, 2021 @07:17PM
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Making a fighter jet is way harder than hitting a satellite with a few grams worth of kinetic projectile (or, more accurately, letting the satellite run into a field them).
I wouldn't bet on any nation not being able to pull that off. In fact I can think of some teams of university students who could probably hit a Starlink satellite if you gave them some funding.
Re:Pentagon Puts F-35 Full-Rate Production Decision on Hold
by lumost on Saturday January 02, 2021 @08:36PM
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Any nuclear armed adversary could knock out a whole hemisphere of starlinks with a single missile.
Re:Pentagon Puts F-35 Full-Rate Production Decision on Hold
by Diesel555 on Sunday January 03, 2021 @12:27AM
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The AWACS for an F-35 in terms of providing an air picture is less necessary. They are still command and control and provide services which may not be radar related. They have lots of people that can process data and taskings. So don't let the idea that they are being used with an AWACS mean they require an AWACS.
And for the space discussion, nothing is as real time as a fighter's sensors airborne, it's pretty bad how long some data can take to reach a platform that can use that data. The military has a problem right now with distributing data real time, they are working to solve that problem. You can find a lot of articles on the ABMS. https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2336618/adva...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_XQ-58_Valkyrie