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Re:School or Prison by tolbish on Friday January 01, 2021 @09:06PM (#25609542)
> Why don't we have more outrage against this outdated institution created out of 1600 era values?

Americans with nice lives, particularly the types to frequent HN, are insulated from the effects of our criminal justice system. Concern for schooling takes precedence.

Re:School or Prison by Melting_Harps on Friday January 01, 2021 @11:11PM (#25610328)
> Americans with nice lives, particularly the types to frequent HN, are insulated from the effects of our criminal justice system. Concern for schooling takes precedence.

It's called selective application of the Law, and the US has 3 possibly 4 tiered systems depending on Class strata from what I can tell.

The first level applies to the affluent and politically connected classes that get to legalize their crimes and somehow still get rewarded for their behavior with continued contracts with Government.

FAANG workers have to recognize they are part of the problem: they work for employers who actively abuse privacy laws, labour laws, tax laws, and God only knows what other clandestine operations they have with military and intelligence agencies and yet its some sort of talking point that those people are proud to remind you of any chance they have that they belong to this class (of only vicariously) as though it had any merit or prestige. Until that sentiment changes, I doubt any well constructed from of oratory on HN is going to do much if anything to that end, its definitely a cultural and social issue and class and your affiliation to it seems to be a much bigger component than anything like skin colour or living in the right neighborhood, zip codes.

Re:School or Prison by Bostonian on Friday January 01, 2021 @09:41PM (#25609803)
Americans who live in low-crime areas are somewhat insulated from criminal justice "reform" that sets criminals free and increases crime rates.
Re:School or Prison by KittenInABox on Friday January 01, 2021 @10:27PM (#25610104)
[This comment previously contained an assumption that reducing poverty reduces crime rates. A poster commented that there isn't as much of a correlation as this comment stated so I removed it.]
Re:School or Prison by Bostonian on Friday January 01, 2021 @10:45PM (#25610194)
Poverty rates fell in the 1960s, but crime rose.
Re:School or Prison by KittenInABox on Friday January 01, 2021 @11:02PM (#25610282)
After doing a brief amount of research, you're probably right. Thank you for correcting me.
Re:School or Prison by aegis4244 on Saturday January 02, 2021 @12:09AM (#25610565)
Leaded gas.