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Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by learc83 on Friday January 01, 2021 @09:31AM (#25603488)
I agree with the sentiment. But you basically have no recourse if you get food poisoning from a restaurant. Unless it’s a mass event, there’s no way for you to prove it was the restaurant, and even if you could prove it, your damages aren’t likely to be enough to sue.
Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by amluto on Friday January 01, 2021 @10:23AM (#25603847)
Food poisoning has much slower onset than most people think, and, as I understand it, it’s very common to blame the wrong food.

I think it would be good to encourage everyone with food poisoning to notify a central authority to collect statistics, but blaming a specific restaurant from a single case is dicey at best.

It’s also worth noting that most people expect meat to be the riskiest type of food. In fact, lettuce is much more likely to cause food poisoning.

(Ground beef is indeed more dangerous than solid pieces, but most chain restaurants are pretty careful about their HACCP and are likely to cook it properly. Your average large burger chain won’t serve rare beef patties even upon request.)

Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by bonzini on Friday January 01, 2021 @12:59PM (#25605113)
Food poisoning usually takes 10-15 hours from meal to symptoms. That gives you only a couple of meals to consider.

About ten years ago one third of the office (50 people out of 150) called in sick, it was pretty clear which meal and which restaurant was the culprit.

Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by amluto on Friday January 01, 2021 @03:18PM (#25606574)
Except when the food poisoning is due to toxins and not pathogens, e.g. scombroid poisoning.

Identifying the culprit is certainly easier when you have a whole group of victims.

Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by newman8r on Friday January 01, 2021 @09:50AM (#25603605)
I had an old roommate try to sue in-n-out after getting severe food poisoning. It actually went to court - the in-n-out attorney completely destroyed him, he was outgunned. They showed receipts for thousands of people who ate there that day and that there weren't any other cases reported.

Reporting food poisoning if it ever happens to you (even if minor) could be the difference between someone else being believed of being shut down.

Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by wolco2 on Friday January 01, 2021 @11:06AM (#25604183)
Advice I wish I could give myself. Don't eat out if you can avoid it and if you do go in person, never order in.

In secret someone who cares less about your health than anyone you know prepares hundreds of meals a day and if they don't come in because they are sick they lose money. If they don't try to hide mistakes it will cost them. If they don't save the company money by picking up food off the ground or using yesterdays soup as a base for today's soup they are doing a poor job. There are very few ways a customer can prove these mistakes unless they are visible upon receipt. Poor reviews hidden from the public is the only recourse.

Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by gamblor956 on Friday January 01, 2021 @04:29PM (#25607374)
A worker coming in sick can be a safety violation if they don't wear the appropriate protective equipment (generally gloves and a mask). Picking food of the ground is a safety violation that could get a restaurant shut down, and moreover would open the restaurant up to civil torts. A restaurant is not going to risk permanent closure to save a few cents on food that falls to the ground, especially not in places where they grade restaurants on food safety.

As for using leftovers: this will shock you, but a large portion of menu items in even fine establishments use leftover items (that were not served to customers). Soups, stews, curries, etc., generally involve perpetually renewed bases, where the previous days leftovers "seed" the new day's mix. The meats in pastas and other starch-heavy dishes are usually trimmings from entrees in which the meat is the star. Meatloaves in restaurants always use leftover meats from the day before. Nearly all breads in bakeries involve the reuse of the sourdough starter, and indeed the concept of sourdough itself is premised on the reuse of the the dough.

Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by jfim on Friday January 01, 2021 @11:14AM (#25604261)
> using yesterdays soup as a base for today's soup

That's not necessarily a bad thing. There is such a thing as a perpetual stew [0] in which a stew is replenished with ingredients over months or even years.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_stew

Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by x86_64Ubuntu on Friday January 01, 2021 @12:31PM (#25604875)
And it's not common at all in today's world, for a reason.
Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by astura on Saturday January 02, 2021 @10:40AM (#25613491)
WTF?

Nothing of what you claim is normal or typical in food service.

Source: I've worked in food service. Everyone takes health, safety, and quality very seriously.

Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by CydeWeys on Friday January 01, 2021 @12:30PM (#25604859)
So your advice is basically to never patronize restaurants? Seems like an awful overreaction to something that almost never happens?
Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by dghughes on Friday January 01, 2021 @10:01AM (#25603677)
>They showed receipts for thousands of people who ate there that day and that there weren't any other cases reported.

It makes you wonder: did the lawyer call each one of those thousands of people, did anyone get sick but didn't realize it was the burger, time could be an issue too maybe a few lettuce leaves had listeria on them but it only grew to levels after a certain time and temperature.

Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by jiofih on Friday January 01, 2021 @10:07AM (#25603714)
If that’s the case and they did not consistently fail at food safety practices, just a one-off, then we can consider it an accident like any other and the restaurant is not culpable.
Re:California law bans delivery apps from listing a restaura... by ddingus on Friday January 01, 2021 @07:58PM (#25609121)
At the least, one can work the problem to a resturaunt. Not always possible, due to how these things can go, but more possible than when other parties are involved.