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Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by brokenkebab on Thursday December 31, 2020 @09:38PM (#25600286)
I'm not sure we have any definition here :-) But claim that anything is economically wothless unless there are people willing to participate in exchanging it is in fact supported (not denied as you seem to imply) by any example of speculative bubble, including of course Tulipmania.
Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by arcticbull on Thursday December 31, 2020 @10:03PM (#25600422)
People are using bitcoins price to justify its value. Price is not value, certainly not on a short timescale. Consider that in the short term a market is a popularity content but in the long term, it weighs actual value. This is another way of saying that the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

If you actually attempt to assess fundamental value of Bitcoin based on anything comparable it’s value approaches zero. It’s pretty much worthless at anything it’s ever been positioned to achieve except crime and speculation.

Frankly it’s not even good at crime.

Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by wolco2 on Friday January 01, 2021 @02:05AM (#25601462)
The value of a bitcoin is the rarity of owning a coin is limited and the way it works opens up transactions globally. The price is the market demand.
Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by arcticbull on Friday January 01, 2021 @03:54AM (#25601837)
oooh the rarity of owning a some digital magic beans, right, thanks I'll pass.
Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by wolco2 on Friday January 01, 2021 @10:31AM (#25603904)
Are they magic beans or just beans?

A bitcoin address gives you a unique global address decentralizated that funds can be sent to. There is utility to that function.

Using your description the internet is a magic place faeries built that provides no usefulness because it's virtual.

Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by arcticbull on Friday January 01, 2021 @11:52AM (#25604542)
No, Bitcoin provides no value because it's bad at everything it tries to be. It's a bad store of value (-86% swings 3x in the last few years), it's a bad currency (7tx/sec) and it's bad for the environment (as much power consumption as Chile).

The internet provides utility. Bitcoin provides speculation and crime.

Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by alwillis on Saturday January 02, 2021 @03:49AM (#25611351)
It's a bad store of value (-86% swings 3x in the last few years), it's a bad currency (7tx/sec)

Bitcoin is the best performing asset of the past years compared to stocks, gold, commodities, etc.

Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by brokenkebab on Friday January 01, 2021 @02:32PM (#25605989)
He maybe bad at what you believe it tries to be, and still be useful. And hence its price.

>Bitcoin provides speculation and crime.

Everything valuable can become a tool, or a reason for criminal activity.

Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by brokenkebab on Friday January 01, 2021 @02:35PM (#25606027)
"Magic beans" is something you can say about majority of payment tokens humanity has been using. However, once enough people agree they are good for exchange they become good for exchange.
Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by cbozeman on Friday January 01, 2021 @09:14PM (#25609588)
Then you can say the exact same shit about American dollars.

The rarity of owning some paper with ink on it!

Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by ric2b on Friday January 01, 2021 @06:31AM (#25602528)
That's alright, there is no coercion to use BTC.
Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by arcticbull on Friday January 01, 2021 @09:13AM (#25603376)
I have no idea what that statement is supposed to mean or prove lol.
Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by ric2b on Friday January 01, 2021 @12:00PM (#25604601)
Nothing, just a polite way of responding "nobody cares" to "thanks I'll pass."