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Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by svara on Thursday December 31, 2020 @05:56PM (#25598178)
There does seem to be a fundamental design issue in bitcoin and proof of work in general: Mining has economies of scale and therefore winner takes all mechanics leading to centralization.

At that point the mechanism that ensures ledger integrity is the calculation that if the miner tampers with the ledger, that would destroy trust in the coin and hurt the miner in that way.

But 1) that's exactly how conventional currencies work too and 2) it's actually an untested hypothesis. Who knows what would happen in a world where the economy runs on bitcoin and there's some "good reason" to deviate from the protocol.

Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by alexknvl on Friday January 01, 2021 @01:02AM (#25601252)
A miner can not tamper with the ledger. A miner can prevent certain transactions from coming through if they are the only miner on the network, but they can't forge transactions.
Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by sunshinerag on Thursday December 31, 2020 @06:09PM (#25598302)
Re: 1, I don't see conventional currencies working that way.

Has any government promised how and why they will maintain their currency. They supposedly claim they help people why screwing up the very same people. Case in point, the 2008 crisis and the various modern monetary based crises.

Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by ineedasername on Thursday December 31, 2020 @07:48PM (#25599312)
I agree that governments can manipulate their monetary policy in ways that are not in the best interests of their people. But I also don't see how widespread crypto currency would 1) have prevented the '08/'09 financial collapse, and 2) it appears that fiat monetary policy has more flexibility in responding to such crisis by inserting liquidity, facilitating the controlled dissolution of defunct financial institutions, etc.
Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by xapata on Thursday December 31, 2020 @08:19PM (#25599670)
2008 is a great example of why fiat currency is helpful. The government can simply create more to stimulate cash flow and/or prevent a crisis of confidence in a non-government institution.
Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by sparkie on Friday January 01, 2021 @07:13AM (#25602732)
But when the government 'simply create more', they are not creating any more wealth. They are creating more units of currency to represent the same wealth as before, which eventually makes every unit of currency worth slightly less.

The people who have assets in cash end up paying for it. That includes the poor who have most of their net worth in cash as they live paycheck to paycheck, and whose purchasing power has been stagnant for decades.

Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by xapata on Friday January 01, 2021 @03:02PM (#25606362)
If the government "prints" money and immediately distributes it uniformly to the population, it benefits the poor most of all. Especially debtors.

This year was a great example. Mortgage refinancing bonanza. If inflation really takes hold, those debtors will be very happy.

> And that’s not a “rich get richer” kind of thing — the poverty rate fell. And it’s no surprise. Peter Ganong, Pacal Noel, and Joseph Vavra found that under the CARES superdole, “two-thirds of UI eligible workers can receive benefits which exceed lost earnings and one-fifth can receive benefits at least double lost earnings.”

https://www.slowboring.com/p/the-cares-superdole-was-a-huge-...

Re:Bitcoin is a disaster by dleslie on Thursday December 31, 2020 @09:06PM (#25600067)
Twelve years later and I'm still waiting on that severe/total economic collapse wrought of quantitative easing that the libertarian hawks envisaged.