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Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by mulmen on Thursday December 31, 2020 @06:26AM (#25591703)
The turn if the century really was a different time.

> boomer tech

Since we are talking about events ~25 years ago isn’t all of this “boomer tech” because the boomers were at the peak of their careers at the time? Aren’t they the ones that created, like, everything?

Seems like a strangely modern phrase to use to describe what is now ancient history.

Also I’m not that old but I already see the ageism in tech. I see ideas dismissed based on age rather than merit. The normalization of this type of derogatory language makes me uncomfortable.

Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by j45 on Thursday December 31, 2020 @08:11AM (#25592305)
Internet generations seem to be much quicker, with big shifts every 3 to 5 years. Mary Meeker's yearly summary often illustrates aspects of this.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by mulmen on Thursday December 31, 2020 @09:27AM (#25592922)
Not sure I follow.

Does “boomer” not mean “person born between 1946 and 1964”?

Does it just mean ”old” now?

Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by j45 on Thursday December 31, 2020 @01:09PM (#25595252)
Also, here’s the Mary meeker reference that talks to much quicker changes online than in real life generations.

https://www.bondcap.com/report/itr19/#&gid=1&pid=1

Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by j45 on Thursday December 31, 2020 @12:28PM (#25594760)
Yeah it is also used for anyone who is even a few years older.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by mulmen on Thursday December 31, 2020 @12:43PM (#25594916)
Ok, thanks for clarifying. That’s a usage I was unfamiliar with.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by bitwize on Thursday December 31, 2020 @12:03PM (#25594474)
Data point: FPS games that try to recreate the low-poly looks of mid-90s shooters are called "boomer shooters" in the community, despite the fact that boomers were already of middle age when Doom, Quake, abd Duke Nukem 3D came out and arguably outside the target audience of those games.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by j45 on Thursday December 31, 2020 @12:29PM (#25594768)
I think what the other post might be missing is that the gamers of the 90s/early 2000's are gen y aka millenials and often called or treated as boomers.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by mulmen on Thursday December 31, 2020 @12:42PM (#25594895)
Ok now I’m really confused. I’m a millennial but I have never (to my knowledge) been called a “boomer”.

Doesn’t that make Halo or CS “boomer shooters”?

Maybe I’m older than I think...

Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by j45 on Thursday December 31, 2020 @12:53PM (#25595053)
I don’t think you are saying just because you haven’t experienced something means it can’t be out of the realm of possibility? And for it to be proven someone has to do the work specifically to convince you? Seems kind of evangelical, which is a foreign concept to me. But I’ll try, respectfully.

Perhaps you you look/act younger than others.

Or maybe others act/look older than you.

Or, maybe there’s people who exist who exaggerate the first difference between themselves and someone else to put distance between them for reasons like ego/insecurity.

Instead of a lens of doubt and putting the burden of others of having to educate you, it’s also possible to meet half way and ask.. what else could this mean that I’m not seeing? Our brains tend to find what we put attention towards.

Either way I hope that helps and no offence intended.

Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by mulmen on Thursday December 31, 2020 @01:03PM (#25595183)
It was just a new term to me so I was asking for clarification. You’ve been helpful, thanks.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by j45 on Thursday December 31, 2020 @05:54PM (#25598144)
Cheers, appreciate you clarifying.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by mulmen on Thursday December 31, 2020 @12:26PM (#25594723)
I played a lot of FPS games in my time and I have never heard that term. When did that start?

Are you suggesting that “boomer” simply means “old” now?

Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by boomboomsubban on Thursday December 31, 2020 @09:38AM (#25593014)
They are using "boomer" similarly to how the word is used in "baby boomer," as in a sudden growth. Netscape was the hot new browser. Probably one of those words on its way out, but they aren't being ageist.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by mulmen on Thursday December 31, 2020 @09:43AM (#25593056)
Ah, yeah, that reading does make more sense. Guess I have a raw nerve.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by boomboomsubban on Thursday December 31, 2020 @10:43AM (#25593651)
I'm less positive of it after rereading the post to be honest. Netscape in 99 was just starting it's plummet, so it's hard to say it was booming but it also wasn't really outdated either. I probably should have thought my post through more, sorry.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by bitwize on Thursday December 31, 2020 @01:12PM (#25595279)
> Netscape in 99 was just starting it's plummet

Navigator was already effectively dead in 1998, when Netscape announced plans to open source the code and launch the Mozilla project. Navigator 4.0 was a buggy mess, and it did not support the W3C standards of the day. It was only a matter of time before the Web broke enough to force the installed Navigator base to switch.

Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by boomboomsubban on Thursday December 31, 2020 @03:05PM (#25596548)
It'd still have been either first or second in browser share, there was a reason AOL was still willing to buy it for so much money. Technologically already dead, but just starting the plummet.
Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by bitwize on Thursday December 31, 2020 @12:07PM (#25594508)
If you're a teen or twentysomething in the late 90s, your mom is probably a boomer. She's also the most likely demographic to stick with Netscape because it's the browser she started off with and it's comfortable for her.

The kids of the time already knew by 1998 that IE was the future of the web. Netscape had already made their open source announcement and spun off Mozilla in 1998. Navigator was effectively dead.

Re:HTML5 still doesn't replicate what mattered about Flash by mulmen on Thursday December 31, 2020 @12:27PM (#25594736)
Yes, my parents are boomers. What I object to is the derogatory use of that term. Sorry if I misinterpreted your intent.