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Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by benjohnson on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:03PM (#25586072)
The Chinese sure acted like it was a possibility that it came from their own lab - their initial reaction was to downplay and cover up.
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by thelittleone on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @06:36PM (#25587650)
One of the strongest indicators is China's fierce opposition to an independent investigation in to the origins of the virus. Why wouldn't they want that?
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by tomp on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @07:35PM (#25588125)
I'm inclined to agree with you based on my political views, but in this case.... Chinese were pretty reserved about outsiders meddling in their internal affairs already before Covid, so this isn't necessarily indicative.
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by thelittleone on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @07:45PM (#25588205)
China has claimed that COVID started in anywhere but China.

Australia: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9024311/China-claim...

India: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8993667/Now-Chinese...

Italy: https://www.the-sun.com/news/1824950/china-accuses-italy-sta...

US Army: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-claims-that-the-u...

Since the common belief is that COVID originated in China, they stand to benefit from an independent inquiry that proves any of their above claims.

Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by thelittleone on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @11:02PM (#25589454)
Here is a new article from the Associated Press "China clamps down in hidden hunt for coronavirus origins".

https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-coronavirus-pandem...

Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by artichokes on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @08:15PM (#25588427)
How would they benefit?
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by lazyjones on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @07:26PM (#25588064)
I don't think that's a strong indicator. Why would you want an investigation that likely requires you to grant foreign investigators access to your bioweapon labs and their records?
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by dboreham on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:08PM (#25586132)
No other government downplayed and covered up?
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by major505 on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:31PM (#25586363)
Brazil didn't covered up, but it sure downplayed. Actually is still in the downplay process.
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by goldcd on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:16PM (#25586206)
Ouch, my drink just came out of my nose.
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by mhh__ on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @05:42PM (#25587124)
That's slightly different depending on the country i.e. we have Trump on record confessing about doing both to woodward over the phone but it's not like it came from a US lab.
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by CyberDildonics on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:11PM (#25586159)
What is this even supposed to mean or imply here?
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by alphabettsy on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:55PM (#25586621)
Using this logic isn’t it likely it came from the US? Simultaneously saying it’s nothing and China did it seems suspicious.
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by lazyjones on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @07:27PM (#25588074)
The whole world said it was nothing until February or so, when Italy had its first casualties. The reason for this was the WHO's downplaying of the virus.
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by upbeat_general on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @07:19PM (#25588008)
The US response was shit but A) we have a timeline of events so we know it came from China B) the US didn’t cover things up, rather some politicians (trump for one) massively downplayed the virus.
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by alphabettsy on Thursday December 31, 2020 @02:28AM (#25590431)
To be clear I’m just playing devils advocate, but how can we be certain the virus originated in Wuhan? There's quite possibly information I'm not aware of that refutes this, but isn’t it equally likely that it was first discovered there and it originated somewhere else given the number of asymptomatic cases?
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by sakopov on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @08:37PM (#25588575)
I find it difficult to understand how anyone is going to take action when the media trumpets that COVID isn't an issue much of January and February of this year. [1][2][3]

[1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/time-for-a-reality-che...

[2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/18/world/europe/coronavirus-...

[3]: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/01/29/8008132...

Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by throwaway201103 on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @08:05PM (#25588364)
It wasn't just Trump downplaying. I have emails from my employer about it from early February saying that "common influenza" still represented a greater risk. This was based on CDC/medical expert advise, no doubt.
Re:Israeli startup claims Covid-19 likely originated in a la... by verroq on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:05PM (#25586102)
The local governments downplay anything and everything to not look bad so I don’t think that is a particularly strong claim.