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Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by cratermoon on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @12:53PM (#25583978)
Newegg went down the toilet in 2016 when Liaison Interactive bought it out.

Adorama is also good and, like B&H, you can't do any business with them on Saturday.

Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by coldpie on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @01:12PM (#25584245)
Has any retail company ever gotten better after being bought out (thinking NewEgg, Toys R Us, Guitar Center...)? Some incentive is fucked up if decent businesses are being run into the ground.
Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by cratermoon on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @01:34PM (#25584493)
Toys R Us and Guitar Center are among the retailers bought by private equity firms explicitly so the investors could wring the value out of the company and throw the remains in the dumpster. G.I. Joes was another. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/toys-r-...

By the way the remnants of Toys R Us are now owned by Tru Toys and they are looking to make a comeback.

Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by stjohnswarts on Thursday December 31, 2020 @11:03AM (#25593853)
Also to load them up on with debt from other sources and then let them go bankrupt. Which should be illegal.
Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by cratermoon on Thursday December 31, 2020 @05:03PM (#25597697)
Can you give an example? I don't disbelieve you, but it's not something I've come across. What do they do, take an accounting liability completely unrelated to the company, "sell" it to the company, thus putting it on the books there and off the books of the investors?
Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by sampo on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @03:02PM (#25585407)
> so the investors could wring the value out of the company and throw the remains in the dumpster

What does that mean in practice?

Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by dingaling on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @05:54PM (#25587252)
> What does that mean in practice?

Buy the company with loans, strip the tangible assets for cash, burden the company with the loan repayments and bail out.

Basically use the company as leverage to buy it, and then make it pay for having been bought out. It will seldom be able to do so, and eventually will stagger into bankruptcy. Both the company and the creditors lose, but not the 'investors'.

Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by cratermoon on Thursday December 31, 2020 @05:00PM (#25597671)
This is the best 3x5 card/elevator pitch version of the private equity playbook that I've seen. The part about making the company pay the 'investors' for buying the company is especially poignant.

If anyone never quite "got" the rancor directed at Mitt Romney for his association with Bain Capital, this should clear it up.

Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @06:53PM (#25587809)
Toys R Us aren't exactly blameless. They were pissing away tens of millions before the buyout for their Times square megastore.
Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by genericone on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @03:45PM (#25585877)
Low expected long term business value due to predicted market shifts. Compress all dwindling future value into an immediately extractable source of income at the cost of the existence of the business itself. Basically, squeeze the brand name dry until the brand name itself means nothing.
Re:Amazon still hasn’t fixed its problem with bait-and-switc... by jamiek88 on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @01:37PM (#25584523)
Vulture capitalists bleed them to death. Toys R Us is particularly sad as their business was strong.