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Re:Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor i... by Talyen42 on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @01:07PM (#25572747)
please list smartphones i can buy that have no suppliers with any history of human rights issues thank you
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Re:Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor i... by wizzwizz4 on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @01:09PM (#25572786)
https://www.fairphone.com/

https://www.pine64.org/, to my knowledge.

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Re:Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor i... by ratww on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @01:24PM (#25572999)
Interesting, I wasn't aware of Fairphone. Here's their supplier list btw, in case anyone wants to check out:

https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/016_005...

Still seems to be mostly China (48 out of 65), but the fact they make it public is highly commendable.

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Re:Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor i... by CubsFan1060 on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @04:44PM (#25575418)
Other comment has a list of suppliers.

https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/016_005...

One of which is "O-Film"

Apple dropped them because they used forced labor: https://9to5mac.com/2020/12/03/iphone-camera-supplier-o-film...

So, it's probably reasonable to suspect that FairPhone does (or did) use suppliers that used forced labor. I only checked the one because I had remembered hearing it somewhere.

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Re:Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor i... by saladgnu054 on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @01:10PM (#25572795)
Why are you moving the goalposts? What does the history matter, the list of countries currently with millions of people in concentration camps is quite short.
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Re:Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor i... by Pulcinella on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @01:19PM (#25572929)
You need to raise your standards. Concentration camps are inherently evil, it does not matter how many people are in them. A concentration camp isn’t acceptable just because it only has 999,999 people in it.
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Re:Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor i... by mvanbaak on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @01:15PM (#25572881)
As far as I can see they are not moving the goalpost. They simply asked to what mobile phone brand they can go to make things better.

Yes, the answer is: not one.

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Re:Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor i... by daenz on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @02:03PM (#25573452)
The goal post moving was the phrasing "with any history of human rights issues" (emphasis mine). The goal was: let's not do business with places who are currently abusing human rights like this. The goal post was then moved to: let's not do business with places with any history of human rights issues.
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Re:Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor i... by holstvoogd on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @01:08PM (#25572776)
Maybe fairphone?
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