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Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by PaulHoule on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @11:00AM (#25571038)
The main trouble I have with Substack right now is that it looks so much like Medium it's hard not believe it is going to turn out the same in the end.

Unlike Medium, however, it's attracted some quality writing. (e.g. Medium seems to attract writers who are (a) blown away by much easier it is to get usage numbers compared to a real blog, and (b) are blown away by getting 70 "views" on an article.)

Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by nicoburns on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @12:12PM (#25572006)
> Unlike Medium, however, it's attracted some quality writing.

IIRC Medium was like this too in the beginning. There was a time where I wanted to read articles on Medium because they were higher quality than average. I agree that it's hard to see Substack turning out differently. Although if the company isn't acquired / doesn't IPO then it's also true that these things can vary based on who is running the company.

Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by smnrchrds on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @02:50PM (#25573993)
I don't remember the beginnings of Medium, but I vividly remember Quora back in the day. It was full of successful CEOs, entrepreneurs, subject matter experts, scientists, etc. It was THE place to ask a question if you wanted high quality responses. Now, it is just a Google spam and growth hacking platform.
Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by ghaff on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @03:05PM (#25574162)
I guess the difference here is that low-quality content (however you care to define) mostly won't be paid for and likely won't even be seen. The concept is interesting although I for one am very selective about the things I subscribe to. (And I'm also pretty newslettered out in general.)
Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by guildmaster on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @03:08PM (#25574207)
Let me tell you a story about Yahoo answers...
Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by ghaff on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @02:13PM (#25573570)
>IIRC Medium was like this too in the beginning.

I think that's right. And one of the things that made Medium attractive to me to cross-post from my own blog to every now and then was that people who mostly didn't know any better saw the overall quality and assumed that there was some filtering going on. Which in turn made it seems more authoritative than a "blog." I stopped bothering once the quality went down and the paywalls went up.

Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @12:49PM (#25572469)
The "problem" with Medium is that the quality of many of the articles is poor. But so what? That only matters if you're using presence on the site as your mechanism of quality filtering. If the site has mixed quality posts, read the ones from high quality authors.

There could be a market for a service that just does quality filtering as a news aggregation service. So basically the opposite of what YouTube is doing -- don't show anything from OAN or CNN or similar partisan outlets, don't show garbage blogs, show the good ones. Maybe easier said than done, but I bet there's a market there.

Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by wongarsu on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @01:25PM (#25573006)
That's basically what sites like Reddit or HN set out to do: aggregate the good articles, using the wisdom of the crowd. Of course that's not that easy, and not necessary what people even want
Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by bbarn on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @01:50PM (#25573307)
The wisdom of the crowd quickly gets overwhelmed by the idiocy of the mob.
Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by names_are_hard on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @03:04PM (#25574155)
I agree. Another potential solution is a kind of service that will enable users to look for articles that meet some criteria, and the service could prioritize articles of higher quality. Then you wouldn't need to browse Medium, you'd just look for what you want and the service would recommend quality articles.

Of course the question is always how to properly rank an article's quality. I'd say the best approach is to crowdsource it - develop an algorithm that takes into account how many other highly ranked articles reference a given article, and give a higher rank to articles that have more references.

If you do this, make sure to give the algorithm a clever name. Ideally name it after yourself, unless your name is Smith. You'll never do well with a business built around something called SmithRank.

Now if your last name happened to be something related the things you're ranking, like, say..."Article"...wow, call it ArticleRank!

Just remember you heard it first here on HackerNews.

Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by AnthonyMouse on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @01:03AM (#25579036)
Yes, good show, PageRank. Slight problem, though -- that measures popularity, which correlates with outrage rather than quality. Then you end up with results full of OAN and CNN.
Re:Is Substack the Media Future We Want? by dionidium on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @03:12PM (#25574269)
I’m sure I’ve read hundreds of pieces on Medium, but I don’t associate those pieces with anybody or anything and I definitely never gave them any money. On the other hand, I subscribe to multiple substacks and I’ve been really happy with the experience, one that I associate very directly with the specific writers I’m paying to read.

That feels like a big difference.