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Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by absolutelyrad on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @07:58AM (#25569317)
Exactly. And people who want wealth inequalities to fade away, can they explain people who have better looks due to better genetics. Then they carry for their next generations. Maybe also force attractive people to mate with less attractive ones so these inequalities also go away? Sounds insane doesn't it? This is equally insane idea.

This is just unfair to everyone. It is wrong, immoral, unethical to tax the wealth of people, if you don't account for other inequalities in life. The inequalities will persist, just that when assets, money isn't that medium of storage, people will only value looks and other things even more, because that's how you'd effectively store your wealth, untaxable. The genes of the people become the platform for storing wealth in that kind of world. The only place where breaking or taxing people' wealth is agreeable is when they become too powerful and above governments. No other excuse.

This is something seriously overlooked.

Why do some guys get all the girls and some don't. Isn't it unfair to those guys that they have their needs emotionally met just like any other successful humans? If you are so fair, fix these problems. Everyone has feelings, and it's not their fault that they're bitter about it.

Is it those men's mistake that they were born in this world? And they couldn't even do anything to rectify that problem when the baseline is so high to reach?

Everyday I read about these people and it makes me sad. Thankfully I don't have any of those problems, but I can't overlook those who do have them. Atleast they'd have a chance in todays world had they pushed themselves and become wealthier.

This isn't only about men, but women too.

When you save money and forgo pleasures, you aren't supposed to be penalized.

Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by bonoboTP on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:34AM (#25569586)
Have you heard of Western Europe? It's not a binary choice between "eat or be eaten", "the poor are just lazy" vs. "force attractive people to have sex with unattractive ones", "brave new world" utopia.

Western European programmers still live very well, they just aren't as rich as in the US. And the high taxes do moderate and blunt the cutthroat competition to a degree, which results in less crazy work life balance etc.

Of course these debates get very heated because everyone wants the system that would give them more. I was born to poor parents who could afford their own education because it's free here. My relatives had a social net to bounce back from during rough times (primary school teacher). It's not good for a society to have a large portion who feel existential dread and that the only way up is taking huge risks that often require initial capital.

The reason it is like this in the US is because it's not a nation. It's just atomic families and people from all over the world, tolerating each other and minding their own business. There is no feeling of solidarity, especially across races.

Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by postingpals on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:21AM (#25569490)
This is a lot of odd, complex moral statements used to denounce a comparatively simple and separate idea, that wealth should be distributed somewhat more fairly. Inequality is going to persist in other areas and probably even in financial areas, but that doesn't make taxes robbery.
Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by Consultant32452 on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:07AM (#25569392)
They imagine if the system were upended they wouldn't be low status. They are wrong.
Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by thundergolfer on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @07:58AM (#25569319)
With the words you’ve used, you sound threatening and extreme. What do you mean by someone trying to stop you “accumulating resources” for your child?
Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by not_knuth on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:26AM (#25569533)
I am in the same boat as you. While it is very normal for parents to be defensive, I found the comment a bit unnecessarily aggressive without an immenent threat (heck, we're on some comment section on the internet here, not a dome in hunger games battling for survival).

But then again, I have not had children of my own, so I can't relate to the need to defend my offspring.

And from friends I know that parenting is really hard with lots of sleepless nights. Perhaps the parent commenter just had a bad day.

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Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by not_knuth on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @09:04AM (#25569790)
It seems we indeed do not share morals. I thought I was merely offering a humane/plausible excuse.

Perhaps it's just your laconic phrasing, but I can not stop reading your replies in Arnold Schwarzenegger's voice. Maybe I would see them in a different light if I read them with Wall-E's voice.

Best of luck to your child.

Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by postingpals on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:23AM (#25569510)
Are you suggesting you'd kill someone if they tried to tax you slightly more highly? Or if they took some of your child's inheritance according to a means tested solution? That is very weird.
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Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by jahaja on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @09:39AM (#25570108)
That's just pathological.
Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by afuchs on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:21AM (#25569496)
Why immediately jump to such a conclusion?

The paper being discussed talks about there being a threshold under which someone might be in a poverty trap. Would simple subsidies and programs to support children's economic future suffice, such as some of the policies advocated for by American progressives?

(Of course, this would require taxes or some other source of funding, but doesn't require confiscation of all inherited wealth)

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Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by dang on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @02:18PM (#25573631)
Your posts in this thread have been beyond the pale. Please stop, and please don't post like this to HN in the future.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by maxerickson on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:59AM (#25569755)
The consultants are revolting!

I guess it's good that you are honest with yourself about it though, that's better than constructing some elaborate justification around some clearly insufficient core "principles".

Of course, the idea that taxation is theft and a fence isn't doesn't hold.

Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by bluesign on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:20AM (#25569483)
I am exactly in the same boat with you, even if I don't have children yet.
Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by RobertoG on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:03AM (#25569366)
That's kind of funny because communist revolutions start more or less from the same feeling: we work long hours and have nothing and there is not hope for my children.
Re:Evidence on Poverty Traps from Rural Bangladesh [pdf] by bluesign on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:25AM (#25569525)
It is kind of grass is greener on the other side.

If you have capitalism, you end up with communist revolution, if you have communism, you end up with capitalist system.