Why the Quarantine is actual serfdom. https://www.forgac.me/blog/2020/4/5/pandemic-the-shortcut-to... Also on Mises.

Keeping hundreds of millions of people locked inside their houses or in a 5- or 10-km radius is pretty close to modern serfdom, I mean, it definitely quacks and looks like serfdom to me. How else would you define modern serfdom?

Apparently we must apply these serfdom-like measures in order to win against the current pandemic, but that's a different discussion (one of effectiveness).

>Apparently we must apply these serfdom-like measures in order to win against the current pandemic, but that's a different discussion (one of effectiveness).

It's not just a discussion of effectiveness, it's a discussion of values. But proponents of the lockdowns try to avoid that by painting anyone who doesn't share their value system as evil or immoral. There's a good chunk of the population who think it would be immoral to violate people's rights to free movement and association even if a disease with a 5-10% death rate was going around, because human rights aren't conditional. E.g. people who follow some form of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontological_ethics rather than a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism -based value system.

For the non-economists, he is referring to Ludwig von Mises: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises

Highly doubt von Mises said that.

Here is good intro materials to his very rational economic theories https://mises.org/economics-beginners

Yes, because the greatest famines of the past 200 years, during the Great Leap Forward and holodomor, were caused by following extremist free market policies, not the opposite.

So ignorant that every implementation of socialism / communism, or any economic system that tried to control prices in some systemic way, starved or outright murdered vast amounts of humanity?

I love free societies and you should appreciate that capitalists allow the socialists to discuss revolution freely. Because if and when the socialists take over, I can guarantee they won’t afford the capitalists the same freedom.

> Because if and when the socialists take over, I can guarantee they won’t afford the capitalists the same freedom.

You should know your enemy better than lazily repeating Cold War rhetoric. 99% of all socialists today are firmly democratic.

... as we watch the most overtly socialist countries on earth (Cuba, China, Venezuela, North Korea) do exactly the same playbook of thought crime, murder, and torture?