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Re:Interview advice that got me offers by saberdancer on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @02:38PM (#25521266)
Honestly I tried this every time I was interviewed. Never could get them to give the first number. I probably should have been firmer but usually the pressure of the situation led to me giving a number I would be happy with.
Re:Interview advice that got me offers by interviewer0000 on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @05:40PM (#25523117)
> I tried this every time I was interviewed. Never could get them to give the first number.

"I've actually done a few of these calls at this point and i know what the best practice / right move / way to play this is, so instead of me telling you what i'm looking for i'd like you to tell me the range on your hiring document:)" and just be totally silent.

Worked twice for me now.

Re:Interview advice that got me offers by koolba on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @10:42PM (#25524848)
Being silent is incredibly effect during negotiations. It’s arguably the biggest “secret technique”.

Most people want to fill the audio void and will talk. Extensively.

Re:Interview advice that got me offers by saberdancer on Thursday December 24, 2020 @06:04AM (#25526539)
Sounds like a total power move. I'll try to do this next time.
Re:Interview advice that got me offers by munchbunny on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @05:35PM (#25523072)
I’m surprised that’s happening to you. I’ve never gotten pushback when I ask them to give the first number.

Usually that comes with the offer letter, or comes with the numbers that the recruiter reads to you before the offer letter.

Re:Interview advice that got me offers by saberdancer on Thursday December 24, 2020 @06:04AM (#25526537)
Usually they ask me first. I give them the answer of wanting to know more about the position and the company. They push back and I throw in a number I am comfortable with.

But this is usually much before offer letter.

Re:Interview advice that got me offers by mgh2 on Thursday December 24, 2020 @08:26AM (#25527219)
Read the article: it mentions to ask back the recruiter with the same question.

Now I ask back with “what is the total compensation for this position/role?”. I almost always get an answer, often above my expectations. I used to give my range (mistake)

Re:Interview advice that got me offers by Leherenn on Thursday December 24, 2020 @11:13AM (#25528713)
I assume this is something which is going to be very region/industry dependant. I have done the exact same thing multiple times, never had an answer.

When they answer "no, we want you to give a number first", I'm at loss about what to do, so I usually give them a number. Answering "no, you" feels kinda puerile.

I assume you have to be the first to do the power play?