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Re:Xfce 4.16 by Kototama on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @04:29AM (#25515959)
Me too but I can tell you why.

- Coherency: the way it works and is presented does not change much over the years. It's important for me. I don't want to adapt everytime a designer thinks he has a good idea.

- Simplicity: it just works and is well configured out of the box

- Efficiency: not the lightest Desktop Manager in the market but it is light enough so it won't eat resources for nothing

- Right level of complexity: there is enough to configure it to adapt it to your needs but not too much to make it a mess. Take the xfce console for example: you can rename tabs, move them and search text in them. Last time I check these features were not available in Gnome Terminal. But at the same time I don't want much more than that.

Coherency is really important for me: Xfce has been there when Gnome / Unity / Gnome 3 / Mate / Cinnamon were confusing me by offering all the same but not really the same.

Edit: I wrote "consistency" instead of "coherency" but I guess the right term is coherency in this context.

Re:Xfce 4.16 by agumonkey on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @08:13AM (#25517269)
Same. We had this 2010s bubble of design space exploration and constant 'disruption' but in the end .. the good old paradigm is still way more than enough.
Re:Xfce 4.16 by spaniard89277 on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @08:07AM (#25517200)
I agree, XFCE is there when you need it. No weird experiments, always consistent.
Re:Xfce 4.16 by cies on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @08:52AM (#25517612)
Feels like Win98SE to me (that's a compliment). Love it for that, though back to KDE for my daily driver.
Re:Xfce 4.16 by refracture on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @09:35AM (#25517960)
Chicago95 can take that a step further if you like. I'm running KDE lately too (Slackware-current finally got KDE5 recently so I'm trying it out), but XFCE is the old trusty default for me.
Re:Xfce 4.16 by awiesenhofer on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @09:59AM (#25518214)
Wow, what a blast from the past. I always wonder though is anyone actually using themes like these as their actual daily driver?

Link to the project with Screenshots: https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95

Re:Xfce 4.16 by _lffv on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @01:36PM (#25520570)
My grandmother's computer is an old Debian box with nothing more than `ly` (as a DM), xfce, Chicago95, and Firefox. She loves it, though I made a ton of tweaks here and there to make it easier for her to use (specifically a ton of website launchers on her desktop). She got lost in regards to how to use her computer back in the XP>8 transition so it was great to be able to bring her back to that style of desktop and have the system be easier to fix than Windows 8 or 10.
Re:Xfce 4.16 by utxaa on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @05:21PM (#25522951)
nice story :)
Re:Xfce 4.16 by refracture on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @10:23AM (#25518474)
I ran it for most of 2020 before moving to KDE. I hadn't looked at the project recently until today and saw that it now has 'Chicago95 Plus! A tool to preview and install Windows 95/98/ME/XP themes'.. I'm going to have to try it that out. Of course, I'm probably an outlier in that I love the visual design of user interfaces from that bygone era.
Re:Xfce 4.16 by Snortibartfast on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @12:04PM (#25519626)
I've used Memphis98 (similar to Chicago95) since it came out. Although just as a GTK-theme, not the entire desktop. Window manager is FVWM and taskbar/panel/session-manager is LXQt, so it's a bit of a Franken-desktop :)

For Qt-apps I use the "Windows" style so they fit together nicely.

Comparing Memphis and Chicago, there are some layout-bugs in Memphis, but I feel like it's overall a bit better balanced than Chicago.

I think all new themes are too bright and flat, Windows 9X was perfect (at least in that regard).

Re:Xfce 4.16 by anthk on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @03:53PM (#25522095)
For a FVWM/Motif based theme, you may like the OL/Motif themes from B00merang.

OpenLook https://b00merang.weebly.com/solaris-8.html

Motif https://b00merang.weebly.com/solaris-9.html

The Solaris 9 theme works great with FVWM.

Re:Xfce 4.16 by rjeli on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @02:39PM (#25521279)
I’ve used chicago95 as a daily driver for a few years now. It’s simple, high contrast, gets out of my way and lets me work.
Re:Xfce 4.16 by kaszanka on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @11:21AM (#25519186)
I used XFCE with this exact theme for a few months and I loved it. The only thing I didn't like was that the light gray top "outline part" of the window decoration doesn't disappear when you maximize a window. I never figured out how to fix that.
Re:Xfce 4.16 by utxaa on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @05:20PM (#25522941)
it seriously takes me like 15 minutes to find a bug in KDE, although i haven't tried it for 3 years or so. is that improved?
Re:Xfce 4.16 by cies on Thursday December 24, 2020 @09:07AM (#25527523)
rock solid lately. also on par with XFCE in terms of resource usage, yet lot and lots more features.
Re:Xfce 4.16 by kieckerjan on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @09:02AM (#25517688)
Wow, I just learned from your casual remark that you can actually search in the xfce console. Awesome!
Re:Xfce 4.16 by stjohnswarts on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @03:41PM (#25521962)
You can search in gnome-terminal and konsole as well. It's a fairly common feature.
Re:Xfce 4.16 by kieckerjan on Thursday December 24, 2020 @04:23AM (#25526137)
I believe you. But those I don't use. :-)