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Re:Things You're Allowed to Do by jasonhansel on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:07PM (#25514282)
More importantly: parking illegally often endangers or harms other people (e.g. by blocking fire hydrants that might be needed in an emergency, or by impeding the flow of traffic).
Re:Things You're Allowed to Do by young_unixer on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:14PM (#25514323)
Considering that, then the fine should be the monetary equivalent to the worst thing that happened or could happen because of the infraction.

Parking illegally in a specific spot could result in the death of 8 people? then the fine should be 8 * value of life. the value of life is ~ $9M in the US, so the fine should be 72 million dollars.

Re:Things You're Allowed to Do by renewiltord on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:19PM (#25514355)
Haha, the obviously absurd conclusion should tell you that something is wrong with at least one premise.
Re:Things You're Allowed to Do by burntoutfire on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @11:32AM (#25519299)
How much compensation would you says is fair for being killed? It'd say there's no such number, given that the dead can't spend.
Re:Things You're Allowed to Do by imgabe on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:10PM (#25514308)
If the firefighters need to get to a hydrant, they will get to it, car or no car. I think we should do away with fines and just let people assume the risk that if there's a fire, your car windows might be smashed to run a hose through it.

Likewise, if the car is impeding traffic, tow it out of there. The fine does nothing to fix the problem.

Re:Things You're Allowed to Do by cameldrv on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:17PM (#25514341)
I’ve never understood this. The number of parking spaces that can’t be used because of fire hydrants is enormous, most of those hydrants will never be used, and it seems like a car in front of a hydrant would only be a very small delay for firefighters.
Re:Things You're Allowed to Do by thmstcls on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:24PM (#25514378)
Are fire hydrants so close together in some places they make a significant amount of parking unusable?
Re:Things You're Allowed to Do by freeone3000 on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:30PM (#25514409)
Every fire hydrant is thirty feet of unparkable space. Some streets "double up" by putting them at intersections (so it's only ten additional no-parking feet), but that's enough to fit three or four cars.
Re:Things You're Allowed to Do by cameldrv on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:31PM (#25514416)
It seems like there's usually about one per block. That's at least a couple percent of street parking spaces.
Re:Things You're Allowed to Do by colmvp on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:57PM (#25514531)
On the other hand, I'm not sure it's proven that having more parking spaces translates to better outcomes, namely less pollution caused by lowering time spent to find a parking space.