Hotwire: HTML over the Wire

Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire by craftinator on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @02:55PM (#25510427)

> Arguably, the web is worse with chat bots, sticky headers, and modals constantly vying for your attention.

We can blame this on the MBA types. I've literally never heard a software engineer say "hey, let's make this pop-up after they've already been looking at the page for a minute!" or anything like it.

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Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire by rorykoehler on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:16PM (#25510680)

Engineers typically aren’t tasked with increasing revenue/engagement.

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Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire by Nextgrid on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:22PM (#25510761)

Unfortunately I have to disagree - if there weren't any engineers around to implement the dark patterns they wouldn't be as prevalent. Maybe this calls for an equivalent of the Hippocratic Oath but in the tech world?

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Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire by rorykoehler on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @04:35PM (#25511537)

Brick layers. Developers develop, designers design was more my point, though of course this line is blurred in many organisations.

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