News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ b... by ogre_codes on Monday December 21, 2020 @08:45PM (#25501956)
> A touch screen requires looking at it, buttons do not.

While there are things on my car I use instinctively without looking—wipers/ lights come to mind—there are plenty of other pieces which are frustratingly difficult to find in the dark. Turning on the window defroster when the window starts to fog up at night comes to mind. Likewise many of the climate control nobs. While they do have nice physical manifestations, I don't know off the top of my head what position the nob happens to be in or which direction I need to shift it to get it into defrost versus heat versus vent.

Personally, I think there is a happy medium somewhere between Tesla's touch everything and the current state where you play button guessing games.

Re:Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ b... by WalterBright on Monday December 21, 2020 @11:53PM (#25502995)
These problems have long been solved. Then, 20 years ago, it was all forgotten.

Behold my 1989 Bronco II:

    ----------[++]-----------------------------------
    MAX A/C   PANEL  PNL/FLR  FLOOR  FLR/DEF  DEFROST

    -----------------[++]----------------------------
    COOL                                         WARM

    OFF * * * HI

    PUSH FOR A/C
It has two sliders with positions as labeled above, then a rotating knob with 5 detented positions for the fan, and the label PUSH FOR A/C. The COOL to WARM slider is also color coded blue fading to red.

Turning on the headlights lights the display.

No manual is needed to fully operate it. I never even had the manual for that car. The knob and sliders are trivial, tactile, and visual. There are no modes.

It's near perfection in user interface design.

Re:Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ b... by HPsquared on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @06:29AM (#25505217)
And then, the "AUTO" button was invented.