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Re:Operation Elop: The final years of Nokia’s mobile phones ... by sellyme on Sunday December 20, 2020 @07:23PM (#25490917)
> But Windows Mobile was a breath of competency in a market of basically all bad Google phones.

The first modern Windows Mobile phone launched in November 2015. The market of Google phones at that point in time was the Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 5X, and Nexus 6.

Now I'm not a huge fan of the Nexus 6 (though I certainly wouldn't call it "bad"), but the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 are still to this date the best value smartphones ever released.

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Re:Operation Elop: The final years of Nokia’s mobile phones ... by ocdtrekkie on Sunday December 20, 2020 @07:56PM (#25491068)
I think you misunderstand: All Android phones are Google phones. You had two options to avoid Google's terrible software, iPhone and Windows Mobile.

Everything else outside of the Chinese market has Google Play Services with root access to the system and as controlled by Google's MADA agreement with manufacturers which has already been found illegal in multiple jurisdictions across the globe.

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Re:Operation Elop: The final years of Nokia’s mobile phones ... by sellyme on Sunday December 20, 2020 @08:36PM (#25491274)
> All Android phones are Google phones.

Convention dictates that "Google phones" specifically means e.g., Nexus/Pixel devices.

Fortunately, if you're unwilling to distinguish between hardware and software, there's already a very convenient and unambiguous term for mobile devices that run Google's OS. In fact, you just used it in the same sentence!

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Re:Operation Elop: The final years of Nokia’s mobile phones ... by macintux on Sunday December 20, 2020 @07:57PM (#25491075)
2015 is when Windows 10 Mobile phones arrived, but Windows Mobile devices were around for a long time before that.
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Re:Operation Elop: The final years of Nokia’s mobile phones ... by sellyme on Sunday December 20, 2020 @08:29PM (#25491233)
Hence the "modern". I thought it was a fairly safe bet that no-one was talking about the Pocket PC.
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Re:Operation Elop: The final years of Nokia’s mobile phones ... by skinnymuch on Monday December 21, 2020 @05:54AM (#25493771)
Windows Phone 7 and 8 should count as modern. That’s far before 2015.
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