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Re:All problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in ... by scns on Sunday December 20, 2020 @04:13AM (#25484973)
Get Mind Illuminated by John Yates Phd. He breaks down the process into ten steps, woo free.
Re:All problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in ... by wcoenen on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @08:21AM (#25505962)
Thanks for the recommendation. I've read the the free kindle sample now, which is already a couple hours of reading. I found the introduction and and overview very difficult to get through, even to the point of falling asleep. But the "first interlude" and "stage one" captured my attention better.

Although a bit verbose and repetitive at times, I liked the exploration of the concepts of attention and peripheral awareness. I may give the "stage one" instructions a try, and buy the rest of the book if it goes well.

Re:All problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in ... by TriNetra on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @01:23PM (#25509413)
Re:All problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in ... by wcoenen on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @07:34AM (#25516902)
This book may have value to learn something about meditation, but it also has exactly the kind of "mystic woo" I was talking about.

In the first few sentences it talks about the "soul" wanting to return back to it's source, the "supreme consciousness". Then a couple pages further, a statement about reincarnation:

"If you don’t believe in rebirth then this book will be of little use to you. As I said earlier, meditation to me is the most powerful tool to harness and channelize the restive and other tendencies of the mind we’ve been carrying with us over lifetimes."

Re:All problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in ... by kawera on Sunday December 20, 2020 @07:05PM (#25490811)
Or Waking Up by Sam Harris, also woo free.
Re:All problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in ... by wcoenen on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @05:57AM (#25516394)
Thanks, I've read the start and found that Harris does a good job of explaining from the outset why a non-religous, mysticism-averse person would still want to explore this type of spirituality. That part wasn't very clear to me in the introduction of "Mind Illuminated".