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Re:Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with K... by foepys on Saturday December 19, 2020 @11:30PM (#25483857)
HP's drivers are the worst I came across. We got HP Elitebook notebooks at work a few years ago and replaced them with Lenovo and Dell because the HPs kept crashing and slowing down over time. Their "utility" software like HP Sure Click slowed the whole system down and turned into nagware. There were at least 3 HP programs hogging the tray area and made discovery of my actually wanted tray icons hard. On top of that the fans just didn't spin down, even after a reinstall, so I were forced to work with constant fan noise in the background.

I never felt so miserable using a notebook before and dreaded each day I had to use it.

Re:Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with K... by bserge on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:08AM (#25485430)
Secret to a (semi)happy life with HP - Identify the hardware and install drivers directly from the manufacturer (or any other company, like Lenovo heh) and do not install any HP software, ever.
Re:Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with K... by _trampeltier on Sunday December 20, 2020 @08:51AM (#25486188)
On work I have no rights to do that. There are hundrets of ZBooks in the company and every one has different troubles with it. Is it to much to ask it has just to run troublefree. We all just wanna use it. It just has to work, like a car or whatever. computers are just tools to make our life more easy. I'm to old to spend more time with my computer on work just for fun. My time on work cost money.
Re:Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with K... by bserge on Sunday December 20, 2020 @09:59AM (#25486612)
Oof, yeah, without a proper configuration, they can be a pain in the ass. Out of the box, brand new, they overheat already. HP software is absolute trash.

I literally use drivers from Lenovo because the ones HP provides are like 5 years old and they don't plan on updating them.

Updating the BIOS is like playing Russian roulette, they seem to introduce more bugs than they fix.

But the hardware itself is nice, I've been using HP workstations for more than a decade. Quality has gone down somewhat (less metal, more plastic, less durable compared to early Elitebooks imo), but they're still nice machines.

Re:Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with K... by _trampeltier on Sunday December 20, 2020 @02:13AM (#25484545)
Yes, HP seems really like worse machines. I just set the max. CPU to 80% because of the costant fan noise. He is quiet now but also slower (of course). Also just the sound driver is around 500MB in RAM, serious? Lucky me I have 32GB. Since I work in a large company, I have nothing to say about the computer brand. At home I'm a happy Fujitsu user since many years.
Re:Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with K... by bserge on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:10AM (#25485442)
Notebookfancontrol works with HP ZBooks G1-G2 (same controller as the Elitebook 8760w), you can use that. But it won't fix their terrible cooling system.
Re:Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with K... by pmontra on Sunday December 20, 2020 @05:08AM (#25485164)
ZBook 15 here (2014) and no such problems. I always used it with Ubuntu so they seem related to Windows. Strange because one expects that HP optimize their hw and sw for Windows.
Re:Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with K... by bserge on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:11AM (#25485453)
Windows 10 has a lot of issues on the ZBook G1/G2. It's even worse when installed under UEFI, so it could be HP's shoddy firmware. Windows 7 is rock stable, though.
Re:Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with K... by GordonS on Sunday December 20, 2020 @08:41AM (#25486132)
I have a ZBook 15 G3, from 2016, I think. No stability issues at all (running Windows 10, but the cooling is crap, which in turn means the fan noise is really annoying.
Re:Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with K... by scrps on Sunday December 20, 2020 @12:53PM (#25488109)
I worked IT at a newspaper a few years back and we instituted a strict "never HP" (I believe we had one HP printer that got grandfathered in) policy, so strict in fact that when we were looking to upgrade our fleet of laptops the company president (in his defense he was trying to be helpful) walked into our office area and told my manager he found a great deal on a palette of HP laptops. My manager, myself, and two co-workers all spontanously shouted "No!" in such perfect unison we considered forming an acapella group just by channeling our hatred of HP. The president backed out the door quietly and avoided eye contact with us for the rest of the day.