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Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by beaumartinez on Saturday May 14, 2011 @04:40PM (#2548500)
Nice idea. I have to say though, that with my extreme browsing laziness, clicking on those links is an incredible effort―why not make it all one page?
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sukhbir on Saturday May 14, 2011 @04:42PM (#2548502)
Hi. I did that so that people could go through the link they wanted, rather than going through a single long page. I will find a way to fix that.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by p4bl0 on Saturday May 14, 2011 @04:51PM (#2548518)
Single page with anchor on titles + table of content at the top. As Wikipedia do for instance :-).
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sukhbir on Saturday May 14, 2011 @05:07PM (#2548556)
I have fixed this as requested.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by pixelcort on Saturday May 14, 2011 @05:20PM (#2548573)
Some BitTorrent clients can detect each other over a LAN (using Bonjour/Zeroconf and/or Local Peer Discovery) and prioritize traffic to/from each other locally. Thus, with a fast enough efficiency becomes less of an issue, although for large enough files physical media transfer might still be faster.

Of course, if your peers are on different LANs but in close physical proximity then physical media becomes much more useful.

Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sukhbir on Saturday May 14, 2011 @05:25PM (#2548585)
That is correct. But to keep things simple, I didn't go into that. My main intention was to see whether people actually feel the need for this and how it would scale.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by joe_the_user on Saturday May 14, 2011 @05:29PM (#2548596)
The idea of a "social" bittorrent client is not new in the sense that the Tribler client defines itself as a "social application" - see: http://www.tribler.org/.

I think tribler defines "social" as those who you have social ties to rather than those who you are geographically close to. It thus leverages "socialness" for security rather than speed.

I think the tribbler's definition is correct. In the modern era, we often don't have social ties to those geographically close to us. Duality should simply be called a "geo-aware" client - not a bad thing.

Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sukhbir on Saturday May 14, 2011 @05:36PM (#2548611)
By the word social (and now I think it can mean different things in different context), I meant that it is based on the concept that there is content which is common to a given 'social' group -- let's say with your friends who use Linux, you can use it to download a 10 GB distro. The set of those friends forms a social group that will participate in downloading the distro. You are right about the 'geo-aware' part but then there is no geo-awareness; it's all manual.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by 18pfsmt on Saturday May 14, 2011 @06:31PM (#2548718)
I'm curious if you looked at Oneswarm[1], as it's built on the azureus platform (i.e. java) and utilizes PKI for authentication. It's not exactly lightweight, but I have setup ~30 friends, that I know and trust, on it in one tightly secure network.

For lightweight, on my router I have a transmission package (.opkg[2]) that handles files not available on my small network.

[1]http://oneswarm.org

[2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opkg

EDIT: Running Openwrt (Backfire, 10.03) on Asus RT-N16

Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by DTrejo on Saturday May 14, 2011 @04:41PM (#2548501)
Sukbir, you should post on forrst.com and/or find a designer buddy to help out. This would help a lot with popularity / catching on.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sukhbir on Saturday May 14, 2011 @04:44PM (#2548503)
Hi. Given the feedback on the UI, I think my designer skills leave a lot to be desired! Thanks for the suggestion, I will work on improving this.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by grab on Saturday May 14, 2011 @03:30PM (#2548372)
Cool stuff. But, meeting with 10 other peers each time i want something downloaded is not sexy. Also, since BitTorrent speeds usually are not amazing, i might as well let someone download the whole thing and then ask from them to give it to me.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sukhbir on Saturday May 14, 2011 @03:33PM (#2548379)
Hi. This only works for peers within close geographical proximity and I used the word social because there are many times when you want to download something that some of your friends also want. Note that the intention is not to download small files, but files of very large sizes and common to the peer group. Also, countries where high speed internet is still a luxury (like India), this works because lots of peers are downloading the same content and thus contributing their (limited) bandwidth to the download.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by akkartik on Saturday May 14, 2011 @04:22PM (#2548466)
I got more out of this comment than the original website. You should just say this in the first paragraph even before you refer to 'the paper'.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sukhbir on Saturday May 14, 2011 @04:32PM (#2548483)
Right, thanks for the feedback. I have updated it to better reflect the idea.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by akkartik on Saturday May 14, 2011 @05:04PM (#2548539)
Yeah, that works great.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sukhbir on Saturday May 14, 2011 @04:24PM (#2548471)
The 'Idea' page mentions this clearly. The third line in fact.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by akkartik on Saturday May 14, 2011 @04:27PM (#2548475)
Between a reader and that 'third line' lie 5 lines, a click, and 8 more lines. Put the punchline first, it'll keep the reader reading longer.

It's a good idea; I just want more people to get it before they hit the back button.

Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by drivebyacct2 on Saturday May 14, 2011 @05:02PM (#2548533)
> since BitTorrent speeds usually are not amazing

What? Most of the things I torrent these days, I torrent specifically because I can download faster than any FTP/HTTP site will ever let me download.

Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sebkomianos on Saturday May 14, 2011 @05:23PM (#2548577)
So this only helps with things that me and my friends want, it doesn't change anything for things that only me or only one of my friends want.

Unless by friends you mean the extended circle of people that live nearby..?

Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sukhbir on Saturday May 14, 2011 @05:24PM (#2548583)
Yes that is correct. Geographical proximity can mean anyone who wants the same data you want and you are in a position to exchange it physically. So it can a friend you meet in college everyday or your neighbor even.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sebkomianos on Saturday May 14, 2011 @05:56PM (#2548643)
Even if we have never met before? A social network for torrents?
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by sukhbir on Saturday May 14, 2011 @06:01PM (#2548656)
If you have never met before but can exchange data physically -- why not! The requirements of this (summarized) are: 1. Common content, 2. Ability to exchange data physically. And if you are in a LAN, not even that.
Re:Duality - A Social BitTorrent Client by harryjerry on Saturday May 14, 2011 @04:14PM (#2548456)
Looks cool. Let me try it out!