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Re:How AltaVista, the first good search engine, fell into th... by chris_f on Saturday December 19, 2020 @10:41AM (#25478038)
We will respect your search query at Runnaroo if you use quotes. Google also has a verbatim search filter, which does a decent job most of the time.
Re:How AltaVista, the first good search engine, fell into th... by _Microft on Saturday December 19, 2020 @11:53AM (#25478735)
Thanks, I will check it out. Good luck with the project!
Re:How AltaVista, the first good search engine, fell into th... by the__alchemist on Saturday December 19, 2020 @01:25PM (#25479730)
This looks really cool! I've on a search project as well, that looks like it has the same goal, and uses a similar approach and philosophy.
Re:How AltaVista, the first good search engine, fell into th... by dheera on Saturday December 19, 2020 @10:54AM (#25478148)
... until you want to search for something verbatim with quotes in it. Google doesn't seem to respect escaped quotes like "hello \"this\" is a test" which is quite surprising to me considering how they invent programming languages and all.
Re:How AltaVista, the first good search engine, fell into th... by jeffbee on Saturday December 19, 2020 @11:38AM (#25478557)
I imagine this is because the punctuation isn’t in their index at all, so it makes no difference how you format the query.
Re:How AltaVista, the first good search engine, fell into th... by derefr on Saturday December 19, 2020 @12:40PM (#25479247)
Is there an whole-Web search engine that isn’t a fulltext search engine, but rather works more like grepping a virtual text file that contains the entire Internet, such that one could match on punctuation and so forth?
Re:How AltaVista, the first good search engine, fell into th... by jeffbee on Saturday December 19, 2020 @12:52PM (#25479401)
I don't know ... would you be willing to insert a $1000 bill every time you wanted to make a full pass over such a corpus?
Re:How AltaVista, the first good search engine, fell into th... by dheera on Saturday December 19, 2020 @12:45PM (#25479295)
They could execute the query on the index and then filter before serving.

I'm sure a thousand engineers at Google can figure this out.

Re:How AltaVista, the first good search engine, fell into th... by jeffbee on Saturday December 19, 2020 @12:55PM (#25479431)
You think it's practical to run the query on the index, materialize the full result, re-index it, run the full query string, and rank? This suggests you do not understand the scale of the problem.
Re:How AltaVista, the first good search engine, fell into th... by dheera on Saturday December 19, 2020 @03:45PM (#25481006)
You don't need to re-match or re-index on the full set of results to display just the first page.

I fully understand the scale of the problem. I also think this is a very approachable problem for a thousand Google engineers who have done a lot harder things.