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Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by avalys on Friday December 18, 2020 @11:49AM (#25468916)
Justin Amash is the only principled person in Congress. The only Republican in the House to vote for both articles of impeachment against Donald Trump.

Of course - this is his last term, he did not run for reelection. I hope he does something meaningful next.

Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by mmcconnell1618 on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:17PM (#25469339)
It's amazing how reasonable some of these politicians get as soon as they no longer need to run for another term in office. I've often believed it was because they needed to keep a part of their constituents happy to get votes for another terms but I actually think fundraising and the lobbyists that control money are the root cause. HBO has a fairly recent documentary that explores this: https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/the-swamp
Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by eredengrin on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:56PM (#25469856)
Except Amash has been principled throughout his entire term, not just this last cycle after deciding not to run again. Of course, it's hard to look at every vote/comment he has made over the years since that's too much, but just as one example, he has been consistently very vocal with his criticism of house leaders from both parties that don't allow for the proper legislative process.
Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by Dirlewanger on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:51PM (#25471805)
If he's so principled, why didn't he propose this bill during a time where he could actually see it walked through the different committees and maybe have a chance at getting to the Senate?
Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by eredengrin on Friday December 18, 2020 @08:06PM (#25474004)
I don't know, there's a lot of possibilities. I doubt it's just because he's been sitting around doing nothing this whole time (but if you think so feel free to say why you think that). It seems more likely to me he was busy with other stuff, eg like his bill earlier this year to end qualified immunity. At the end of the day it's all about prioritizing, and those decisions can become pretty complex I imagine.

You could always try asking him yourself, he seems pretty responsive to people on twitter, and here [1] he answered a somewhat related question.

[1] https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1339970633422221312

Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by pmoriarty on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:01PM (#25469915)
"fundraising and the lobbyists that control money are the root cause"

It's not just that.

After they've left political office, politicians who've advanced the interests of some companies while they were in office often get extremely well paying jobs at those very companies.

High level corporate executives will also regularly go in to politics (Trump being Exhibit A, but there are plenty of others at lower levels).

This revolving door of corporation to political office and back is an open secret in government.

Yet the impression among the general population is that corporations and the government are clearly separate entities. They're not.

Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by ekianjo on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:11PM (#25469238)
He's not a Republican anymore since 2019 - he ran as Independent and then for the Libertarian party.
Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by xpe on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:29PM (#25469517)
> Justin Amash is the only principled person in Congress.

I get the sentiment, believe me. But "being principled" is a matter of degree and perspective.

Clearly, there is a gap between what a particular individual wants of their elected representatives ("reps") versus what they get. Why?

Sure, there are charitable explanations. First, reps have to balance competing interests. Second, some reps may make 'principled' compromises in order to prioritize certain values over others.

There are less charitable explanations, too. First, many reps seek power as an ends unto itself, but doing so pulls them into a system where 'principled' decisions (e.g. ones directly for the benefit of voters) become harder. Second, some reps have questionable ethics and are willing to take money at the expense of their proper responsibilities. And so on.

All of interpretations are true, to some degree.

If people in a (more or less) democratic system want to change it from within, it is not effective to simply hope for reps to behave more ethically. We have to: (1) adjust the rules; (2) change our expectations; and (3) get involved: run for office, volunteer for campaigns, give money and resources, and vote. (Tell me if I've left anything out!)

Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by kifhuwzrsa on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:02PM (#25469112)
Funny, because I would list that as one of the few unprincipled decisions he has made.
Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by mhh__ on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:13PM (#25469271)
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Re:Justin Amash Introduces Bill to End Civil Asset Forfeitur... by xpe on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:20PM (#25469388)
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