Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by heavyset_go on Thursday December 17, 2020 @08:33PM
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Well, I run Linux on my Mac, and I legally virtualize macOS in a VM on my Mac, so this could impact my ability to do so.
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Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by phs318u on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:43PM
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Out of interest, would you mind describing your setup? i.e. hardware, linux distro, VM tech and macOS version?
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by heavyset_go on Friday December 18, 2020 @07:16PM
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It's nothing special. I use Kubuntu on a MBP, and I've talked about how I've setup Plasma Desktop before on HN[1][2].
I run Catalina in a VM because it's the oldest macOS version that supports the APIs I'm developing against. I used to use KVM for virtualizing macOS, but VirtualBox[3] is more portable despite being much slower, so I use that now.
If you can use KVM with Virtio and VFIO passthrough, it's really fast. Linux just got Virtio-fs[4], too. I've had to pass boot options to the kernel to get the IOMMU to play nicely on the Mac, though, and I just don't have patience for that these days.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23607374
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25172499
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by phs318u on Friday December 18, 2020 @09:30PM
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Thanks. I've got an MBA6,2 lying around so may give it a go over the holidays.
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by heavyset_go on Friday December 18, 2020 @10:52PM
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Linux runs really well on Macbooks that came out before 2016. I've found powertop, TLP and TLP-GUI, and mbpfan to be useful laptop and Mac-specific tools on Linux.
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by mschuster91 on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:45AM
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Not the poster you're replying to, but a cheesegrater MP4.1 with Debian and this package (https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM) works just fine.
Never bothered with GPU passthrough however.
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by jhayward on Friday December 18, 2020 @11:58AM
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So, you run Linux on your Mac and virtualize MacOS but won't be able to locate and download the installer as others have indicated?
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by heavyset_go on Friday December 18, 2020 @07:18PM
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I haven't actually looked into it, hence why I said it could impact my ability to do so.
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by fastball on Thursday December 17, 2020 @09:33PM
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That might make you unique haha.
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by baldfat on Thursday December 17, 2020 @10:40PM
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How does VM Mac on a Mac as a developer make one unique?
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by fastball on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:09AM
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Buying a mac, installing linux as your daily driver, and then running macOS in a VM?
I honestly don't even know why you'd do that. I certainly have never heard of anyone doing that until now.
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by thekyle on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:38AM
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I think it's more common to virtualize macOS on a Mac running macOS.
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by fastball on Friday December 18, 2020 @10:42AM
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Sure, but that is not the setup I interpreted from his comment, as I'm unsure why you would mention linux if the point of the comment was about virtualizing macOS on macOS.
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by thekyle on Monday December 21, 2020 @06:45PM
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Yes, I understand. But if you can't install macOS in VM on Linux (on a Mac) then you most likely can't do it in a VM on macOS either.
Re:Apple has stopped providing standalone installers for mac...
by craftinator on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:50AM
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Likely because he wants more than a sliver of control over his OS.