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Re:The black market in stolen antiquities on Facebook by fortran77 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @07:11PM (#25462238)
That was my first thought, too! A naïve (stolen-)antiquity buyer who sees offers on facebook would be a prime target for someone selling knockoffs. Get them made in China and sell them in Yemen! If the local authorities come after you, just show them that they're not real. It's really a win-win.

See: https://blog.britishmuseum.org/fake-antiquities-made-for-uns...

From this article:

> This is evidence for a side of the trade in antiquities which is rarely discussed – there are more fakes in circulation than genuine articles. It is easier and cheaper to make copies than it is to hire dozens of workers to look for originals. Fakes can also be conveniently complete, whereas almost everything from antiquity has been broken, either deliberately in episodes of destruction, or accidentally in the case of everyday items. There is also the simple economic truth of the laws of supply and demand.

Re:The black market in stolen antiquities on Facebook by londons_explore on Thursday December 17, 2020 @09:11PM (#25463021)
Depends on the item - there are plenty of hand carved 300 year old statues and bits of furniture that would be far more expensive to fake than to just buy the real thing...

Paying someone for a month to hand carve some intricate wood with metal inlays costs a lot more than $50 for some old junk antique, even at china labour rates.

Re:The black market in stolen antiquities on Facebook by nwah1 on Friday December 18, 2020 @05:52AM (#25465881)
But you can train a CNC machine to replicate a carving that you do once, and then replicate it indefinitely.
Re:The black market in stolen antiquities on Facebook by ljf on Friday December 18, 2020 @06:41AM (#25466135)
Yeah, but that involves upfront costs, walking into a house and other location to forcibly take an antiquity is free...
Re:The black market in stolen antiquities on Facebook by triceratops on Thursday December 17, 2020 @09:15PM (#25463051)
> If the local authorities come after you, just show them that they're not real

I've heard that selling fake illegal drugs (like passing off dried basil as cannabis in jurisdictions where the latter is illegal) is also illegal. Is the same true for illegal artifacts?

Re:The black market in stolen antiquities on Facebook by shash on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:58AM (#25464548)
Yes, often so - it would just come under the heading of fraud.

The pity is, some of the fakes are themselves exquisite pieces.

Re:The black market in stolen antiquities on Facebook by pmiller2 on Friday December 18, 2020 @06:27PM (#25473382)
You can get charged with far more than fraud in the US, depending on the state. In Illinois, selling "look alike" drugs is a class 3 felony. [0]

> A look-alike drug can be any substance that would lead a reasonable person to believe that the look-alike is the real thing, such as its color, consistency, dosage amount, shape or markings. Or a drug can be considered a look-alike if you imply or expressly represent that the look-alike is real. For example, a court can consider any statements you made in advertising or distributing the drug, whether you asked for money and how you packaged the look alike. [ibid]

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[0]: https://www.skokiecriminallawyer.com/2013/01/look-alike-drug...

Re:The black market in stolen antiquities on Facebook by ineedasername on Friday December 18, 2020 @02:35AM (#25464729)
Like paintings indistinguishable from the original until a chemical analysis is performed on the pigment. At which point you really have to wonder at the monetary value placed on the original. To someone appreciating the piece visually, pretty much the whole point, what does it matter?
Re:The black market in stolen antiquities on Facebook by pampa on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:59AM (#25465195)
This topic has been explored since the advent of photography and cinema. When advances in technology allowed to produce indistinguishable copies.

"The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction" (1935), by Walter Benjamin [1] is a good starting point on this topic. He was the first to ask what actually constitutes a work of art, if you can cheaply mass produce copies of it.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Work_of_Art_in_the_Age_of_...