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Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by f1gm3nt on Friday May 13, 2011 @05:04PM (#2546180)
So, instead of cracking down drug dealers and gangs they decide to arrest a minor for making a list of how hot/ugly the girls are at his school? Glad to see the police force there is hard at work.
Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by hugh3 on Friday May 13, 2011 @05:19PM (#2546235)
What are the odds that a police officer's daughter was on the list?
Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by VladRussian on Friday May 13, 2011 @05:16PM (#2546223)
existence of drug dealers and gangs supports and promotes the police force and power increase. Getting habit of freely expressing your non conformist opinions is a path to subversion of existing power (dis)balance.
Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by zzzmarcus on Friday May 13, 2011 @05:35PM (#2546282)
Wow. That is an incredibly insightful, concise (and cynical) comment. Well said.
Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by nevinera on Friday May 13, 2011 @06:20PM (#2546426)
Really? You think this is part of a careful long-term plan, motivated by a fundamental characteristic of municipal power structure?

I would lean toward 'officer applying vaguely worded rules to make the law behave as he feels it ought to', but yours is certainly easier to get behind. Fuck the man!

Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by nitrogen on Friday May 13, 2011 @07:13PM (#2546590)
It doesn't have to be a careful long-term plan. I suspect a lot of "conspiracies" are actually emergent behavior in the system of laws and incentives.
Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by CWuestefeld on Saturday May 14, 2011 @11:04AM (#2547758)
I think this is an incredibly important point. It's perfectly possible for each actor in the system to behave in the way that he believes is right and proper, yet for the overall effect of the system to be evil.

I'm sure that this is the explanation for much of the bad that we see, and as a result, those -- especially in politics -- who base their actions on demagoguery, attacking the individual parts of the system, are really doing nothing to help.

Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by nevinera on Friday May 13, 2011 @09:27PM (#2546863)
I'm sure many of them are. But equally many are mere functions of human nature.

The long-term impacts of individual actions on the power of the police-force as a whole are both non-obvious and very slow. In particular, I really doubt that the social pressure to empower the institution, transmitted down the chain of command, has more impact on police officers than the violence and abuse they witness first- or second-hand.

Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by tzs on Friday May 13, 2011 @06:14PM (#2546411)
If you draw some line and say "we are only going to work on crimes more serious than this", you are in effect saying that anyone is free to do the crimes that don't make the cut.

That would be a pretty crappy society in which to live. It's much better to devote some effort to the less serious crimes too. The more serious ones should be the priority.

Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by mentat on Friday May 13, 2011 @06:40PM (#2546484)
No, it would be a great society in which to live because you'd have a reasonable number of crimes and you'd have a fair chance of knowing if you were committing them. As it stands now there are an indeterminate amount of crimes specified in such a way that if you upset someone representing the state they will find one to apply to you.
Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by Yzupnick on Friday May 13, 2011 @06:52PM (#2546530)
Something Ayn Rand predicted.
Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by knshaum on Friday May 13, 2011 @06:37PM (#2546470)
Reasonable point; but I think one should draw a line between things that obviously are crimes, and offenses that stretch the definition of 'crime' beyond recognition, as in this case.
Re:Teen arrested for ranking looks of classmates on Facebook. by mike_esspe on Friday May 13, 2011 @06:40PM (#2546487)
Speech is not a crime.