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Re:Tensions in Google's ethical AI group increase as it send... by panpanna on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:02AM (#25456765)
So basically Gebru was fired for turning Googles fake ethics group into a real ethics group?
Re:Tensions in Google's ethical AI group increase as it send... by googlethrow3134 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:28AM (#25457052)
She wasn’t fired for trying to publish the paper.

She threatened to resign if her demands were met, so Google pre-empted it by accepting her resignation.

The narrative around her being “fired” is completely false and is a lie that needs to be stopped in its track.

Re:Tensions in Google's ethical AI group increase as it send... by baron_harkonnen on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:49AM (#25457304)
So do you honestly believe that if Gebru were to interview at another company and they performed a background check asking why her last position was terminated if she put "voluntary" it would come back with no problems?

Do you likewise honestly think that if she applied for unemployment services in the US should we be denied because of willful termination from her last job?

Everyone I know who has been fired, when it's reported to the company, the phrasing is always "Person X and the company have come to a mutual agreement", but in my experience it's never really mutual.

I've known many coworkers that threaten to quit over issues, but it still depends on them making that choice formally. Otherwise they are fired.

Re:Tensions in Google's ethical AI group increase as it send... by cbozeman on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:06AM (#25456815)
Well, its like HR. The Ethics group is there to shield the company, not the customer. Apparently she didn't understand that.
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Re:Tensions in Google's ethical AI group increase as it send... by free_rms on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:48AM (#25457287)
It's fascinating how nobody can say how this paper was such an ethical stab in the heart for Google, it's all about process.

The paper's out there! You can read it!