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Re:We can have democracy or we can have Facebook by Shared404 on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @11:54PM (#25452623)
And just for fun, this is a quote from the paper [0] cited in your YouTube video:

"Nevertheless, the overall 3.4 fold reduction in aerosol copy numbers we observed combined with a nearly complete elimination of large droplet spray demonstrated by Johnson et al. suggests that surgical masks worn by infected persons could have a clinically significant impact on transmission"

[0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23505369/

Edit: article -> paper

Re:We can have democracy or we can have Facebook by matz1 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:12AM (#25456890)
>suggests that surgical masks worn by infected persons could have a clinically significant impact on transmission

could have, doesn't mean will have

and most people don't use surgical mask

Re:We can have democracy or we can have Facebook by Shared404 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:35AM (#25457132)
From Above:

> You've moved the goalpost:

> Masks don't work -> Some masks don't work.

Edit: Also, really? You're going to be that pedantic? It's pretty obvious what the intent behind that sentence was.

Until you can provide a better source, I'm done.

Re:We can have democracy or we can have Facebook by matz1 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @02:32PM (#25459373)
for clarification, this is my stance: most mask that is used by general population doesn't work, at least for the purpose of preventing virus.

If you want to force people to wear mask(whether they want it or not) you better come up with strong evidence that it work and the benefit should be more than the downside.

At least I'm still willing to accept compromise by not against voluntary mask.

Re:We can have democracy or we can have Facebook by Shared404 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @09:57PM (#25463296)
I know I said I was done, but I ran across this earlier:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/530628-swedens-king...

> If you want to force people to wear mask(whether they want it or not) you better come up with strong evidence that it work and the benefit should be more than the downside.

Already provided both, but we're not going back into that until you have more sources, preferably reputable ones that actually agree with you.

> At least I'm still willing to accept compromise by not against voluntary mask.

That's... not a compromise. That's literally where you started.

Re:We can have democracy or we can have Facebook by matz1 on Friday December 18, 2020 @06:47AM (#25466168)
>https://thehill.com/policy/international/530628-swedens-king...

I disagree with him by calling it failed. the death rate is not significantly different compared to previous year and most importantly life is still pretty much normal.

>Already provided both, but we're not going back into that until you have more sources, preferably reputable ones that actually agree with you.

You haven't provided strong evidence so far, all the evidence you provided are inconclusive and insufficient.

>That's... not a compromise

What do you mean not compromise ? You wanted mask, I can't support forced mask but still willing to accept voluntary mask. Mask doesn't work but if you want to wear it then its your choice, I think its silly but I won't be against it. That's a compromise.

Re:We can have democracy or we can have Facebook by Shared404 on Friday December 18, 2020 @10:51AM (#25468213)
> That's a compromise.

No, that's a default. You doing your thing and me doing mine.

That's not what a compromise is.

Re:We can have democracy or we can have Facebook by matz1 on Friday December 18, 2020 @08:55PM (#25474276)
>You doing your thing and me doing mine.

I'm ok with that. you want to wear your mask its up to you, as long as you are not forcing it to other people.

Re:We can have democracy or we can have Facebook by Shared404 on Saturday December 19, 2020 @10:24AM (#25477923)
Yes, I know you are OK with that. I said it wasn't a compromise, it's the default.

Did you even read my comment?

Re:We can have democracy or we can have Facebook by matz1 on Saturday December 19, 2020 @04:32PM (#25481412)
Ok fine maybe we interpret compromise differently. Nonetheless I'm still against forced mask mandate.