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Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by amelius on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @09:16AM (#25430484)
Regarding Apple, just break it into a hardware + software company. All issues will automatically resolve. And it will be better for the environment as a bonus, because devices can be used for a longer time and with multiple purposes.
Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by M4v3R on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @09:53AM (#25430814)
As an Apple device user that's precisely the last thing I want. The whole reason I buy their product is because how tightly the hardware and software is integrated and for all the benefits that this gets me, as opposed to Android.
Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by Kbelicius on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @10:10AM (#25430975)
There is no reason that that tight integration needs to go if apple was broken into hardware and software parts.
Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by xxpor on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @02:54PM (#25434310)
There's no point in splitting them if there's still the tight integration. All you'll end up with more legal bureaucracy.
Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by amelius on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @10:10AM (#25430974)
Can you give an example? What features does it bring specifically?
Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by AlexandrB on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @10:48AM (#25431320)
The M1 chip, which seems designed to run reference counted software written in Swift or Objective-C. But there are plenty of other examples (ever wonder why no one seems to be able to replicate Apple's great trackpads?).
Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by amelius on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @11:25AM (#25431733)
> The M1 chip, which seems designed to run reference counted software written in Swift or Objective-C.

You'll have to explain why a dedicated hardware company wouldn't be able to come up with such a chip given sufficient competition. If many people use language X, then it makes sense for an IC design company to optimize for that language (unless there is a near-monopoly situation and they don't care about what the market wants).

> But there are plenty of other examples (ever wonder why no one seems to be able to replicate Apple's great trackpads?).

I'm afraid you'll have to provide some more context, because the connection between your argument and both hardware and software seems missing.

Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by apetrovic on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @01:33PM (#25433328)
> You'll have to explain why a dedicated hardware company wouldn't be able to come up with such a chip given sufficient competition. If many people use language X, then it makes sense for an IC design company to optimise for that language (unless there is a near-monopoly situation and they don't care about what the market wants).

They gave you an example. Apple (software part) don't need to run around and ask hardware companies to implement optimisations in their hardware, and hope that implementation will be as promised (see: Microsoft and Qualcomm, and debacle called "custom ARM chip for Windows"). Apple (software part) can plan their releases many years in advance, knowing that Apple (hardware part) will fulfil their promise (see: Intel's roadmap recently, NVidia and Apple in the past). Apple (software part) can choose programming language that suits them and be sure that the hardware will follow. Apple (hardware part) can plan many years in advance and make obviously superior product knowing that there will be enough software support (Rosetta 2) to overcome initial platform switching pain. The whole M1 Mac story is all about the company that is so integrated that they can pull something that nobody else can.

You choose to ignore the example.