Re:Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Develop...
by robin_reala on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:31PM
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Leaving aside the fact that process size is a marketing term these days, I’m currently typing this on a previous-gen Macbook Air with a 10nm Intel CPU. They’re definitely not stuck on 14nm.
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Re:Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Develop...
by dralley on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:59PM
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They are effectively stuck on 14nm. They are unable to produce 10nm chips at scale at an acceptable yield, and the power and performance characteristics are not as good as expected either.
There's a reason the only laptops getting 10nm are low-quantity premium laptops.
Re:Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Develop...
by dkersten on Monday December 14, 2020 @01:36PM
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> Leaving aside the fact that process size is a marketing term these days
There was a youtube video where the guy used a scanning electron microscope to compare gate sizes between 14nm intel and 7nm AMD and both were basically the exact same size.
The conclusion was that the term is useful only to compare a single companies product line against other offerings in that line (eg comparing Intel's 14nm to Intel's 20nm makes sense but comparing Intel to AMD based on node size is meaningless).
Re:Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Develop...
by kilburn on Monday December 14, 2020 @05:08PM
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I think you are speaking of der8auer and this video in particular: https://youtu.be/1kQUXpZpLXI?t=716
Re:Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Develop...
by dkersten on Monday December 14, 2020 @10:52PM
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Yes! That’s the one, thanks. It was a very interesting video.
Re:Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Develop...
by jdxcode on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:57PM
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yes but GP is still correct in general if not in the specifics. Practically speaking they can fit way more transistors on the die which translates to more power for more types of things whether it's M1 or 888.
Re:Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Develop...
by formerly_proven on Monday December 14, 2020 @01:42PM
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The i9 from the article is a 14nm "tweaked Skylake" part, i.e. the uarch has been on the market for ~five years.