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Re:Tesla's market cap now accounts for roughly 1/3rd of the ... by hn_throwaway_99 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @09:39PM (#25412929)
I actually assume Tesla's valuation has very little to do with any quaint notion of discounted value related to future cash flows.

There is just a ton of money looking for a place to invest, and Tesla is certainly telling a higher growth story than any of the existing car companies.

Re:Tesla's market cap now accounts for roughly 1/3rd of the ... by bob33212 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @10:04PM (#25413078)
A lot of people feel like cash is a depreciating asset. Real Estate and High growth companies are the best hedge against that. There are certainly plenty of complaints you can make against Musk or TSLA, but you cannot stay that TSLA hasn't been growing and isn't on a path of growth.
Re:Tesla's market cap now accounts for roughly 1/3rd of the ... by kjksf on Sunday December 13, 2020 @10:17PM (#25413150)
It's not a story.

Tesla has been growing revenues 50% on average for the past 10 years.

Most other car makers are roughly flat. This year ICE cars, globally, are in decline.

Tesla will grow 50% on average for at least next 5 years.

Also, there has been a ton of money looking for a place to invest for the past 20 years. And there are plenty companies that are investable. Just recently we had monster IPOs from DoorDash, AirBnb, Snowflake and others.

At the same time there are many more companies that one could invest in but doesn't so it's lazy to attribute "lost of money available" to outsized successes like Tesla or Snowflake.

Re:Tesla's market cap now accounts for roughly 1/3rd of the ... by nopzor on Sunday December 13, 2020 @10:42PM (#25413284)
fwiw even if tesla increases their revenue by 50% cagr, for the next 5 years, they will still have a -lot- less revenue than the large ice car vendors.
Re:Tesla's market cap now accounts for roughly 1/3rd of the ... by jrbuhl on Sunday December 13, 2020 @11:04PM (#25413421)
Tesla from Sept. 20, 2019 to Sept. 20, 2020 revenue is $28.17 B. Ford revenue in the same period was $130.9 B and GM was $115.8 B. 28.17 * 1.5^5 = 213.9. That doesn't even include the inevitable decrease in sales for F and GM if Tesla grows that much.
Re:Tesla's market cap now accounts for roughly 1/3rd of the ... by dmitriid on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:07AM (#25413791)
Why didn't you pick (2019 numbers)

- Toyota, $272 billion

- Volkswagen Group, $282 billion

And yes, even compared to Ford, Daimler etc. Tesla's revenues are quite small.

Re:Tesla's market cap now accounts for roughly 1/3rd of the ... by MR4D on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:58PM (#25420774)
It’s Profit that matters, not Revenue.

Stock price is usually factored as a PE ratio - Price to Earnings.

Price to Sales also exists, but usually only for emerging companies that have just gone public and are growing rapidly.

Re:Tesla's market cap now accounts for roughly 1/3rd of the ... by Shivetya on Monday December 14, 2020 @08:18AM (#25417133)
Considering the debt load of GM and Ford the valuation of Tesla is no where near the risk as both those two are both past the hundred billion mark. While both are far more established than Tesla they are also more at risk because of how much debt they carry.